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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

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    When Israel bombs Iran?
    If only.
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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

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    Heya Soot. To get their Nuke.....you don't think being 2-3months from break out. That they will just stop the completion of what they have been striving for these last 20 years or so, did ya?
    If they are that hellbent on getting a nuke...then what on earth would stop them beyond an invasion?
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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    If they are that hellbent on getting a nuke...then what on earth would stop them beyond an invasion?
    Heya ILOR. Define invasion.....as here is a time, that would require some of that concept BO talked about, with using a scalpel and not a Meat Cleaver.

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya ILOR. Define invasion.....as here is a time, that would require some of that concept BO talked about, with using a scalpel and not a Meat Cleaver.
    Scratch invasion and replace it with regime change.

    Edit: also...hey MMC!
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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Scratch invasion and replace it with regime change.
    That's not a scalpel that's a club.



    Barack Obama framed this deal yesterday as the only alternative to war, which he claims is what his critics preferred:

    When you hear the inevitable critics of the deal sound off, ask them a simple question,” Obama said. “Do you really think that this verifiable deal, if fully implemented, backed by the world’s major powers is a worse option than the risk of another war in the Middle East?” … He dismissed hawks who said that military strikes would work better than diplomacy. U.S. bombs, he argued, would set back Iran’s program for only a few years. “Meanwhile, we’d ensure that Iran would race ahead to try and build a bomb,” he said[.]

    Actually, that’s not what critics wanted. They wanted all of the sanctions to remain in place until we at least got the deal that Obama outlined in 2012, not what he delivered yesterday – and an end to Iranian sponsorship of terror in the region and around the world, such as in Buenos Aires. The deal Obama outlined yesterday won’t stop more wars from erupting in the Middle East; it will provide a cash avalanche for Iran to greatly expand its proxy wars in the Middle East, targeting Israel, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia. You could smell the aroma from Obama’s burning straw man from Washington to Tel Aviv......snip~

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

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    If only.
    Yeah, I knew. No need to confirm.
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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    That's not a scalpel that's a club.



    Barack Obama framed this deal yesterday as the only alternative to war, which he claims is what his critics preferred:

    When you hear the inevitable critics of the deal sound off, ask them a simple question,” Obama said. “Do you really think that this verifiable deal, if fully implemented, backed by the world’s major powers is a worse option than the risk of another war in the Middle East?” … He dismissed hawks who said that military strikes would work better than diplomacy. U.S. bombs, he argued, would set back Iran’s program for only a few years. “Meanwhile, we’d ensure that Iran would race ahead to try and build a bomb,” he said[.]

    Actually, that’s not what critics wanted. They wanted all of the sanctions to remain in place until we at least got the deal that Obama outlined in 2012, not what he delivered yesterday – and an end to Iranian sponsorship of terror in the region and around the world, such as in Buenos Aires. The deal Obama outlined yesterday won’t stop more wars from erupting in the Middle East; it will provide a cash avalanche for Iran to greatly expand its proxy wars in the Middle East, targeting Israel, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia. You could smell the aroma from Obama’s burning straw man from Washington to Tel Aviv......snip~

    WaPo: The Iran deal is a cave — by Obama’s own standards « Hot Air
    The sanctions are still in place and are only to be relieved over time as compliance is verified.

    So the only deal you would ever support is a deal that would never happen?
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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    The sanctions are still in place and are only to be relieved over time as compliance is verified.

    So the only deal you would ever support is a deal that would never happen?

    That's not what the Iranian said....as Don Southerland already had up.





    Two relevant tweets:

    Iran/5+1 Statement: "US will cease the application of ALL nuclear-related secondary economic and financial sanctions." Is this gradual?

    Iran/P5+1 Statement: "The EU will TERMINATE the implementation of ALL nuclear-related economic and financial sanctions". How about this?

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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah, I knew. No need to confirm.
    Well, we all know, deep down, what the situtation is now.
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    Re: E.U. and Iran Announce Framework for Nuclear Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Well, we all know, deep down, what the situtation is now.
    That Israel wants regime change in Iran, yes.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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