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Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

1.)Except that no one has the right to someone else's property.
2.) And there is an obvious difference between refusing to serve at a gay wedding and murdering someone.
3.) Live and let live would be violated by murder, rape, theft etc etc.
4.) Not forcing someone to cater a gay wedding however reflects exactly what the term "live and let live" means.
5.) You used ...what were your own words.... "good then let people continue thier fight for right and wrong and stop crying about it and making up hyperbolic crap that is only worthy of laughter lol" And then turned right around and used hyperbolic crap that is only worthy of laughter.

1.) i never claimed they did
2.) i agree depeding on the CONTEXT, in this discussion it was simply about rights violations and law breaking
3.)murder i agree, because a life is taken but buy what standard are the others different
4.) there is no force though no more than any other law which you are choosing to deem "different"
5.) no i did not, i used other examples of law breaking and rights violations. If he meant something different he should have been more specific. Making a equal analogy is not hyperbolic, in your head you heard rape and said hey wait a minute raping my sister isnt like discriminating against her and I agree but thats not how "i" compared them. the content was set by him.

he said those people should live and let live, and in doing so is said people who have crimes committed against them and thier rights violated should live and let live. Theres no other way to take his sentence under context. again if he didnt really mean what he siad he should have worded it better, so my question remains to him what other crimes agaisnt against a person and rights violations should people live and let live on.

The real issue is what i was in fact trying to point out, i realize that my example can easily be seen as extreme but it wasn't at all because of context. HE views crimes against gays and a violation of thier rights in these cases as no big deal and not worthy of any concern so i used other examples that fit the bill (crimes and rights violations) that he could no longer deny

the best part is most people would never tell a black person or women that if they had crimes committed against them or thier rights violated but they love telling the gays that . . .just live and let live. . . its hypocrisy and its dishonest.

where would you draw the line and why? and why is it "wrong" if others have a different line? when talking about crimes and rights violations who gets to say live and let live in one case but not in another . . .

I freely and honestly admit that i have a line too and might act differently is somebody illegally discriminated against me for something but i would never judge others for thier own line.

Maybe i would just find a different place to work, or apt to rent or another baker etc etc but that doesnt change the fact my rights were violated and laws were broken and i would never judge others for not allowing that. In fact if asked i would admit to the guilt that I helped enable those people to break laws and violate rights. I wouldnt like it but i would have to admit it because it would be true.
 
If you say so...I disagree. :shrug:


Clearly. You keep bringing it up and I keep reminding you how the Knapps and conservative media played you for a fool.

yes that false story and fluff piece was exposed by facts and is not true the way people try to paint it . . .ZERO "faith" was attacked

people cant even provide examples of "faith" being attacked in these court cases/violations
 
Dude, the Indiana law had already been changed and signed before all this went down. Get over it. This is the free market response. They got bad reviews on Yelp and hundreds of thousands of dollars for their troubles. If that constitutes bullying then give me some of that. As per the law before it was changed, it did not mirror the federal law. That is a lie.

death threats.

They got death threats and people calling to fire bomb the place, Dude.

There had been no service denied, nor even requested. Death threats FFS and not one of you alleged "liberals" has even condemned the act. In tacit silence you condone it. So, don't play the moral card here, you have none. So long and you and others make this sound like its a "review", you have no leg to stand on.

For 15 years this country has had gay and lesbian weddings and no one has an issue over ****ing pizza to the point of making death threats.

Grow up and enter the 20th century and the rest of the free world, then we'll talk about transsexual rights.

Death threats are a "review" my ass.
 
If you say so...I disagree :shrug:

disagreeing with facts doesnt change them, but you are free to disagree all you like.
 
I don't need your permission.

SOrry, can you point to where i gave my permission? maybe a qoute of me giving you my permission? I simply pointed out your ability to do something, that is not giving permission.
I see the issue pretty clearly now though. What a poster actually writes and what is made up in your head are two VERY different things. Maybe read and then reread slower in the furture to avoid those mistakes. You're welcome.

Back on topic that fact remains with or without you you agreeing. There was factually no attack on FAITH, the story was a farce nor does any ant discrimination law on this topic attack faith..
 
SOrry, can you point to where i gave my permission? maybe a qoute of me giving you my permission?

There was NO need for you to post to me using a quote of me responding to someone else, other than to be just plain annoying. So, I was just informing you that if I want your input I'll ask for it...til then you can return to drinking your pink lady, and listening to 'it's raining men' at the pink hippo.
 
1.)There was NO need for you to post to me using a quote of me responding to someone else, other than to be just plain annoying.
2.) So, I was just informing you that if I want your input I'll ask for it...
3.)til then you can return to drinking your pink lady, and listening to 'it's raining men' at the pink hippo.

1.) wrong again but again, you are free to think what you like, we already discussed the fact that what is actually posted and then what you read and make up are two different things.
Id say probably 40% of posts here are like that, Responding to some else about another post or jumping in the middle of a discussion is typical on a message board so your assumption again, is factually wrong.
2.) ahhh now THIS is where your previously wrong statement fits but instead its me saying it. I dont need you to ask for my input to supply it, I will simply do it when ever I please, thank you.
3.) oh look an stereotypical failed attack on gay people . . even though Im not gay. I just like the majority of americans simply support equal rights and people fighting for them. FAIL.

Please if you will, do you have anything on topic you'd like to discuss or anything new that may support your previously proven wrong claims? the topic is the false claim of attack on faith as related to the oP and other similar stories but which theres no evidence of, please provide some in your next post, thank you.
 
1.) wrong again but again, you are free to think what you like, we already discussed the fact that what is actually posted and then what you read and make up are two different things.
Id say probably 40% of posts here are like that, Responding to some else about another post or jumping in the middle of a discussion is typical on a message board so your assumption again, is factually wrong.
2.) ahhh now THIS is where your previously wrong statement fits but instead its me saying it. I dont need you to ask for my input to supply it, I will simply do it when ever I please, thank you.
3.) oh look an stereotypical failed attack on gay people . . even though Im not gay. I just like the majority of americans simply support equal rights and people fighting for them. FAIL.

Please if you will, do you have anything on topic you'd like to discuss or anything new that may support your previously proven wrong claims? the topic is the false claim of attack on faith as related to the oP and other similar stories but which theres no evidence of, please provide some in your next post, thank you.

1. Raspberry
2. Raspberry
3. Raspberry

Conclusion is a simple hand gesture using one of my fingers...I'm sure you can figure it out....
 
Dude, the Indiana law had already been changed and signed before all this went down. Get over it. This is the free market response. They got bad reviews on Yelp and hundreds of thousands of dollars for their troubles. If that constitutes bullying then give me some of that. As per the law before it was changed, it did not mirror the federal law. That is a lie.
Bad reviews by people who never sampled the store's products and phony orders and mass phone calls to tie up the phone lines are not examples of the free market. They are examples of bullying, a leftist tactic
 
Didn't the attack on this pizza place by militant homos end up earning the owners a million dollars in shows of support? So why keep making pizza in that location when they can come down to Texas and live in peace making Tex-mex pizzas for real men??
 
1. Raspberry
2. Raspberry
3. Raspberry

Conclusion is a simple hand gesture using one of my fingers...I'm sure you can figure it out....

hey look, more of that civility you claim to have, its funny when facts make people upset
 
Didn't the attack on this pizza place by militant homos end up earning the owners a million dollars in shows of support? So why keep making pizza in that location when they can come down to Texas and live in peace making Tex-mex pizzas for real men??

From that comment I hold my head in shame as a native Texan.
 
death threats.

They got death threats and people calling to fire bomb the place, Dude.

There had been no service denied, nor even requested. Death threats FFS and not one of you alleged "liberals" has even condemned the act. In tacit silence you condone it. So, don't play the moral card here, you have none. So long and you and others make this sound like its a "review", you have no leg to stand on.

For 15 years this country has had gay and lesbian weddings and no one has an issue over ****ing pizza to the point of making death threats.

Grow up and enter the 20th century and the rest of the free world, then we'll talk about transsexual rights.

Death threats are a "review" my ass.
On the plus side, all of the vile hatred expressed towards them gave a fair number of people the opportunity to express which side of the issue they came down on...including more than a few gay couples that actually supported the pizzeria owners. Classiest and most gracious act of the whole affair if you ask me.
 
Bad reviews by people who never sampled the store's products and phony orders and mass phone calls to tie up the phone lines are not examples of the free market. They are examples of bullying, a leftist tactic

It is called free speech. It is not always pretty. It is sometimes very ugly and hateful. But we believe in allowing it in our country. Just as some religious folk can stand on street corners and preach that fags are going to burn in hell and hand out their literature.
 
It is called free speech. It is not always pretty. It is sometimes very ugly and hateful. But we believe in allowing it in our country. Just as some religious folk can stand on street corners and preach that fags are going to burn in hell and hand out their literature.
An argument can be made as to whether or not it's free speech, but no argument can be made to call it an example of the free market
 
On the plus side, all of the vile hatred expressed towards them gave a fair number of people the opportunity to express which side of the issue they came down on...including more than a few gay couples that actually supported the pizzeria owners. Classiest and most gracious act of the whole affair if you ask me.


That's been much of the reaction in the gay community here.

It still sends a huge message that not one, not one "liberal" has condemned the actions. And once again run from it, deny it or minimize it.

My respect for Americans over all has plummeted. What you people call 'liberals' I call sick ****s. they adore a lying bag of **** like Hillary, support a dishonest self involved prick as president and with silence condone death threats because of a hypothetical situation.
 
That's been much of the reaction in the gay community here.

It still sends a huge message that not one, not one "liberal" has condemned the actions. And once again run from it, deny it or minimize it.

My respect for Americans over all has plummeted. What you people call 'liberals' I call sick ****s. they adore a lying bag of **** like Hillary, support a dishonest self involved prick as president and with silence condone death threats because of a hypothetical situation.

Good morning, F&L. :2wave:

Keep repeating - up is down, black is white, good is bad - you know the routine. :lol:
 
Good morning, F&L. :2wave:

Keep repeating - up is down, black is white, good is bad - you know the routine. :lol:


"Wages are slavery!" "Tax the rich!" I covered these idiots for 25 years full time professionally. Not one of the slogans and claims has changed since I began my career at 19.
 
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