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Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

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No demonstrable bigotry occurred... when we have a thread dedicated to a law that allowed businesses to discriminate against gays? :lol: Well, alright.

Outside of a "dedicated thread", which means discussion within a very small community, exactly what actual event has occurred? That's right. There has been no discriminatory event.
 
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Right. Only 20k? Prove it.

Interesting you imply its just a small number so who cares.

How many gay couples in Indiana would have gone to the pizzeria to cater their wedding? It would seem, according to the storm troops, if it were just one, it warrants complete personal and professional destruction.

That fact speaks volumes.

I'm simply pointing out to those who want to believe that this was a huge group of people speaking out to support bigotry that they number is actually quite small relative to the population. That is a fact that remains. Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
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I'm simply pointing out to those who want to believe that this was a huge group of people speaking out to support bigotry that they number is actually quite small relative to the population. That is a fact that remains. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Again, if numbers are the standard you want to apply, you've eliminated the whole argument against the Indiana legislation. Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
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Outside of a "dedicated thread", which means discussion within a very small community, exactly what actual event has occurred? That's right. There has been no discriminatory event.

The actual event that occurred was a law being created that allowed for the discrimination of gays. That's hardly "no discriminatory event" as much as you wish it to be so.
 
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You said they were not being forced... I replied that they were... and based on the above reply, I see you now agree with me.

Nice.

No, and I'm not sure how you got that from my post. If you choose to be in a business then there are regulations you just have to follow (do you honestly believe antidiscrimination laws are the only condition of being able to keep a business?) However, nobody is forcing you to run a business.
 
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Does everyone realize that law is force?
 
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No, and I'm not sure how you got that from my post. If you choose to be in a business then there are regulations you just have to follow (do you honestly believe antidiscrimination laws are the only condition of being able to keep a business?) However, nobody is forcing you to run a business.

Your post absolutely confirms that businesses are forced to sacrifice their religious beliefs.... That's because the constitutional right to demand the food of your choice at a wedding ceremony supercedes religious freedom... Right?
 
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Your post absolutely confirms that businesses are forced to sacrifice their religious beliefs.... That's because the constitutional right to demand the food of your choice at a wedding ceremony supercedes religious freedom... Right?

How dare those faggots demand that they be served the same food that straight people are served!!!!
 
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How dare those faggots demand that they be served the same food that straight people are served!!!!

You are quite the bigot aren't you?
 
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and i disagreed.

And voted for him and didn't shriek at him calling him a homophobe and a bigot.
 
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You are quite the bigot aren't you?

Yes. I am extremely intolerant of discrimination against LGBT's.

You could say that I'm not only bigoted about it; I'm proud of the fact.
 
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Again, if numbers are the standard you want to apply, you've eliminated the whole argument against the Indiana legislation. Sorry to burst your bubble.

eh....at least they changed the law so that they can't discriminate. Small price to pay. America by and large stood up and said no to bigotry, forcing Indiana to comply. A win for freedom and justice.
 
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Your post absolutely confirms that businesses are forced to sacrifice their religious beliefs.... That's because the constitutional right to demand the food of your choice at a wedding ceremony supercedes religious freedom... Right?

Here's a link to a resource on California regulations in doing business. Find the correlating site that is relevant to the state you live in and go through the regulations carefully. We wouldn't want any of them to supercede your religious freedoms now, would we?

Regulations
 
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Not a damn thing about gays at all.

I have never heard of anybody having a wedding catered with pizza.

The words 'pizza' and 'catering' are mutually exclusive.

It was a pathetic attempt by moronic pizza shop owners to pander to Christians to increase their business, which blew up in their face.

I'll bet that they even set up their own GoFundMe page, or had a friend do it.

Lying, hypocritical morons.

I guess you turned out to be wrong...
 
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it's a boycott over discriminatory treatment of a minority group. False equivalence if there was

I'm sure you'd keep going to a pizza place that had "no blacks" sign on the front window, i mean get real

didn't you know? Religious are on the same "protected class" list as other minorities...
 
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didn't you know? Religious are on the same "protected class" list as other minorities...

Yes. That means that Christians (Muslims, Jews, etc.) can't be turned away on the basis of their being Christian.
 
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Do you believe it is possible to disagree with a lifestyle choice, believe that gay marriage is wrong, yet still manage to love care and hope for the other persons happiness...even if their beliefs do not agree with yours?

I have traveled extensively in my career. I've been to 48 states. Most numerous times including Indiana. I have never personally seen more overt racism than in Indiana. This situation surprises me none.

To your question, yes it's possible. But I do not think for a minute that's what this is.
 
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Yes. That means that Christians (Muslims, Jews, etc.) can't be turned away on the basis of their being Christian.

That means that the religious are free to practice their religion without expecting government institutions to compel others join in. Gays are free to practice their lifestyle choices and should have no expectation that governmental institutions would compel others to join in. The "protected" status cuts both ways.
 
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eh....at least they changed the law so that they can't discriminate. Small price to pay. America by and large stood up and said no to bigotry, forcing Indiana to comply. A win for freedom and justice.

A small price to pay? A remarkable conclusion.

America stood up, I agree. As to Freedom and Justice, I guess that depends on whether Freedom and Justice in this specific matter can be found inside fear and threats of violence.
 
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That means that the religious are free to practice their religion without expecting government institutions to compel others join in.

That is true. Nobody is forcing me to be a Christian.
Gays are free to practice their lifestyle choices and should have no expectation that governmental institutions would compel others to join in.

Also true. Nobody can force a straight Christian to be, oh, a gay atheist.

The "protected" status cuts both ways.

Again true. Your interpretation of what this means, however, is inaccurate.
 
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Again, no matter how many times you say it, refusing to cater a gay wedding because it is against your religious beliefs, is not discriminating against gay people.

Religious person refusing to serve a homosexual = Gay Discrimination
Religious person refusing to service a gay wedding = Refusing to participate in a sacrilegious event.

1 is people, 1 is an event.
Can you define "participation" and to what degree of separation can a line be reasonably drawn?
 
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