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Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

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so said every white supremacist ever

Remember, white supremacism isn't about racism either. It's about pride in one's race. And discriminating against gays isn't bigotry. It's religious freedom.
 
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I couldn't say that they planned it from the start, but I sure think they had a pretty good idea of what to do with the media circus once it started. I have to admit that I admire their out-of-the-box thinking.
The out-of-the-box thinking came from the staff at Glenn Beck's The Blaze. Must hurt some people to have to admit the admire that
 
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The threats started coming in before the fund was set up and the fund was set up for the pizza parlor as a surprise. They knew nothing of it

No one knows for sure if that's the way it happened. They could have easily and quietly 'tipped' off the media, or had someone they know tip off the media to get the ball rolling. But even if the didn't start it, once it got going with all this money rolling in they'd be nuts not to keep playing it.

They're afraid for their lives but then they go on the blaze and tell the world hey we're home 24/7 now, basically saying we're here, at home, come and get us. LOL Sounds fishy. But hey, good for them. If people want to give them money for something like this? Amen.
 
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But what religious right has been taken away from the business owner just by merely selling a product or service?

A business is considering an establishment. What is the first section of the 1st Amendment? And which amendment applied the BoR's to States also? Now combine that with their Right to freedom of association.

And a rather stupid one at that! The customer's money is green no matter who he is. So, I'd think the business owner would need to get his priorities straight. Is he in business to make a profit or is he in business to make a religious point? If for profit, make the sell and be done with it. If for religious points of view, close shop and re-submit your business license as a non-profit 501(c)(3) religious organization...bka, a church.

True. Most people start a business to fill a need and hopefully to make a profit. But unless yours is a religious affiliated entity, the "sins" of another or non-conformaty of the customer's religious beliefs to your own should never enter the buyer/seller equation. As such, this entire "religious freedom" thing from the business owners' perspective is BS! It's bigotry wrapped in perceived legitimacy.

Your position here is a black and white position. You allow for no grey area. When in reality there is lots of grey. What you're essentially saying is that no one can open up a business for BOTH reason. IE: To make money AND further religion.

To your last statement, I commend you for being willing to stand up on principle, but at some point you have to see the fallacy in your pursuit to defend both sides. You can't be a defender of gay rights and a defender of pro-business practices at any expense. At some point, something's got to give. Thus, I repeat: A gay or lesbian or Black person's money is just as green and spends just as quickly as any heterosexual person or White person. So, unless you're willing to step back from one or the other, be prepared to lose alot of money on an absurd principled conviction.

Yes, actually I CAN be a defender of both. Nothing HAS to give in this particular instance. You might WANT it to give. But it doesn't HAVE to give. Besides, I personally think that being willing to serve a pizza to someone that walks in the door but not willing to cater an event that they are against is a reasonable compromise. One isn't necessarily against the pizzaria's owners beliefs. The other is.
 
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I couldn't say that they planned it from the start, but I sure think they had a pretty good idea of what to do with the media circus once it started. I have to admit that I admire their out-of-the-box thinking.

Dana Loesch started the fund for them... after they closed up shop.
 
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No one knows for sure if that's the way it happened. They could have easily and quietly 'tipped' off the media, or had someone they know tip off the media to get the ball rolling. But even if the didn't start it, once it got going with all this money rolling in they'd be nuts not to keep playing it.

They're afraid for their lives but then they go on the blaze and tell the world hey we're home 24/7 now, basically saying we're here, at home, come and get us. LOL Sounds fishy. But hey, good for them. If people want to give them money for something like this? Amen.

It's like I said. You basically have two choices. Believe that conspiracy theory or accept the reality of the leftist response to the shop owners
 
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whenever I hear liberals compare this to the civil rights movement I can actually hear REVEREND Martin Luther King turn over in his grave.
 
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No one knows for sure if that's the way it happened. They could have easily and quietly 'tipped' off the media, or had someone they know tip off the media to get the ball rolling. But even if the didn't start it, once it got going with all this money rolling in they'd be nuts not to keep playing it.

They're afraid for their lives but then they go on the blaze and tell the world hey we're home 24/7 now, basically saying we're here, at home, come and get us. LOL Sounds fishy. But hey, good for them. If people want to give them money for something like this? Amen.

Dana Loesch was the one who interviewed them for the Blaze... she's the one who set up the funding account after the interview.


not sure where lefties are getting this talking point from, but it doesn't' stand up to scrutiny.
 
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I couldn't say that they planned it from the start, but I sure think they had a pretty good idea of what to do with the media circus once it started. I have to admit that I admire their out-of-the-box thinking.

Huh ? A Blaze reporter set up the fund.

So your'e saying the Family is part of the scam because they exist then.

Sounds like you don't like hateful bigoted intolerant LGBT activitst getting pay back for their threats.
 
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It's like I said. You basically have two choices. Believe that conspiracy theory or accept the reality of the leftist response to the shop owners

And you guys might have to accept the fact that you are being played as suckers. Who goes into hiding then tells the world where you are?
 
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The only thing lacking here are your baseless and uneducated assumptions about what I believe.

Spare me your hyperbolic comments.

Stick to spewing your garbage about what you think you know, not want you want to believe.

Try Googling that instead.

It is common sense to think that a woman that spent weeks and thousands of dollars on a dress does not want pizza as the food at her wedding. Pizza sauce is very hard to get out of some fine fabrics.
 
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Remember, white supremacism isn't about racism either. It's about pride in one's race. And discriminating against gays isn't bigotry. It's religious freedom.

strawmen... multiple.
 
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And you guys might have to accept the fact that you are being played as suckers. Who goes into hiding then tells the world where you are?
I don't recall them saying they were going into hiding, but it's probably a matter of time before someone starts tweeting their addresses. We've seen that before

ETA: I did find where they said they were in hiding, but subsequently the town has come out in support of them encouraging to reopen.
 
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And you guys might have to accept the fact that you are being played as suckers. Who goes into hiding then tells the world where you are?

where are you getting your talking points?... i'd like to read your sources.
 
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Remember, white supremacism isn't about racism either. It's about pride in one's race. And discriminating against gays isn't bigotry. It's religious freedom.

Not sure why you're saying this. :shrug: Who here has stated that white supremacism isn't about racism? (I mean come on, the very name is racist) Or that discriminating against gay's isn't bigotry?
 
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actually it fits the christian persecution complex to a T, so it's really not out of the box at all

well.. ya know.. umm.. this family is actually being persecuted... and,well, you support it... openly.
 
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Dana Loesch was the one who interviewed them for the Blaze... she's the one who set up the funding account after the interview.


not sure where lefties are getting this talking point from, but it doesn't' stand up to scrutiny.

This all started when a local news crew stopped by and interviewed them. Then it took off. There's no such thing as bad publicity. They wouldn't be the 1st business to tip off the media, and then say a few controversial things to get some publicity. I doubt that they thought all this with the blaze and this fund would happen, but they could have very easily started it for a little local publicity.
 
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It is common sense to think that a woman that spent weeks and thousands of dollars on a dress does not want pizza as the food at her wedding. Pizza sauce is very hard to get out of some fine fabrics.

My wife spent $500 on her dress. Her family paid for the very small wedding. We didn't have pizza, but BBQ chicken is messier than pizza. And the stain from such is just as bad as that from the sauce of a pizza.
 
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Not sure why you're saying this. :shrug: Who here has stated that white supremacism isn't about racism? (I mean come on, the very name is racist) Or that discriminating against gay's isn't bigotry?

Saying discrimination isn't oppression because ----- (usually the victim being subhuman) is what every racist/bigot claims
 
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I don't recall them saying they were going into hiding, but it's probably a matter of time before someone starts tweeting their addresses. We've seen that before

? They said they felt threatened at work so they are staying home for their safety. People know their names. The town they live in has about 2000 people in it. If someone wants to they don't have to be Colombo to figure out where they live.
 
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Saying discrimination isn't oppression because ----- (usually the victim being subhuman) is what every racist/bigot claims

Except that no one is implying or saying that gays are subhuman. :shrug: Sooooo.....yeaaah.....Still not sure what the point was in saying that. :shrug:
 
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This all started when a local news crew stopped by and interviewed them. Then it took off. There's no such thing as bad publicity. They wouldn't be the 1st business to tip off the media, and then say a few controversial things to get some publicity. I doubt that they thought all this with the blaze and this fund would happen, but they could have very easily started it for a little local publicity.

They definitely contacted the media. No news crew just happens to stumble upon unlisted mom and pops in shanty towns and ask "Hey would you cater to a gay wedding?"

They're no victims
 
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? They said they felt threatened at work so they are staying home for their safety. People know their names. The town they live in has about 2000 people in it. If someone wants to they don't have to be Colombo to figure out where they live.

Much easier to defend oneself at home than at a open place of business. Duh.
 
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They definitely contacted the media. No news crew just happens to stumble upon unlisted mom and pops in shanty towns and ask "Hey would you cater to a gay wedding?"

They're no victims

So news crews don't go out looking for stories?
 
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