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Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

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It could work. First you have to film a few people losing their **** about you, making a steady catalogue of bitter angry hate filled rants on twitter and the like.

Getting people to say bad things about me is pretty easy lol. They do it here all the time.
 
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refusing to buy pizza from someone because of their views about things not related to pizza is an act of bigotry

I have no doubt about your ability to rationalize around the act of discriminating against someone because of their sexual orientation, your mental gymnastics notwithstanding.
 
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Really? You are going to rely on a book based solely on an "anonymous letter" the author "allegedly just stumbled upon".....Jimenez has been widely discredited. Do some research next time. Doh!
Except that the facts are all still relevant. Drug addict, drug deals, back stabbing ex lovers, the fact that the guy that did the deed was a well known homosexual, and one that regularly frequented gay bars.

But hey...gin up that false narrative for pity.
 
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I have no doubt about your ability to rationalize around the act of discriminating against someone because of their sexual orientation, your mental gymnastics notwithstanding.

unless you are bisexual, you also discriminate based on sexual orientation.

you going to boycott heterosexual business owners because of their evil discrimination?
 
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Getting people to say bad things about me is pretty easy lol. They do it here all the time.
Always consider the source. Bitter angry hate filled small people dont really...well...matter.
 
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unless you are bisexual, you also discriminate based on sexual orientation.

you going to boycott heterosexual business owners because of their evil discrimination?

Your attempt to derail the discussion into absurdity is rejected.
 
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Perhaps. And perhaps it just makes your cause look as tired as the CHik Fil A protests did.

No...I thought those protests were lame. But this one played you guys like fools....and quite profitably. He knew exactly what he was doing here.
 
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unless you are bisexual, you also discriminate based on sexual orientation.

An argument better suited for escort services than the dating world. Of course this may have been obvious to a rational person, so we shouldn't be so hasty to presume you are there yet.
 
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No I meant "literally" as in...whether by a tree or a fence post you are literally dead.




WEll, you jumped in not knowing then:


Of course, LGBT people have been literally strung up from a tree in this country on many occasions. So I guess WCH's issue is the number. Gay people don't deserve freedom because not enough of them have been murdered. (incidentally, if being gay were a visible trait we all damn well know it would have happened that way)



This is what the conversation was about.
 
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Except that the facts are all still relevant. Drug addict, drug deals, back stabbing ex lovers, the fact that the guy that did the deed was a well known homosexual, and one that regularly frequented gay bars.

But hey...gin up that false narrative for pity.


LOL....have you even followed the Jimenez bunk? It was discredited before it ever came out. His entire book was based on an "anonymous letter that he just happened to stumble upon". His book tanked and was widely debunked. Try harder next time.
 
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LOL....have you even followed the Jimenez bunk? It was discredited before it ever came out. His entire book was based on an "anonymous letter that he just happened to stumble upon". His book tanked and was widely debunked. Try harder next time.
Its not about Jimenez...its about what other reporters have found out and what the truth is regarding the actual players. What you are doing is as weak as expressing criticism of a news video because it happens to be played on Fox News.

Bang that drum, baby.
 
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No...I thought those protests were lame. But this one played you guys like fools....and quite profitably. He knew exactly what he was doing here.
She. Funny you keep having a problem with gender identity.
 
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Your attempt to derail the discussion into absurdity is rejected.

I didn't derail a thing. unlike you, I am being honest about discrimination

you don't like it, but the issue that divides us is we don't see rights change based on what side of the employee/employer relationship you fall under.

class warfare advocates like yourself have different rules...and those rules are what is causing these fights.
 
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She. Funny you keep having a problem with gender identity.

You obviously don't even know the facts of the story. The woman gave the interviewer. Her FATHER is the owner of the business. He is the one who shut it down. DOH! LOL :2wave:
 
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You obviously don't even know the facts of the story. The woman gave the interviewer. Her FATHER is the owner of the business. He is the one who shut it down. DOH! LOL :2wave:
Who made the statements? DOH!!!
 
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Its not about Jimenez...its about what other reporters have found out and what the truth is regarding the actual players. What you are doing is as weak as expressing criticism of a news video because it happens to be played on Fox News.

Bang that drum, baby.

LOL....seriously? YOU are the one who tried to back up your claim with the widely discredited Jimenez book. Look at YOUR OWN post and link. Wow........too friggin funny.
 
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LOL....seriously? YOU are the one who tried to back up your claim with the widely discredited Jimenez book. Look at YOUR OWN post and link. Wow........too friggin funny.
No...actually...I didnt. I posted the HuPO ARTICLE...not a link to the Jiminez book.
 
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Who made the statements? DOH!!!

Seriously? Do you even know what the story is about? Have you read any of the articles? or are you simply relying on a story that you heard and didn't get any of the details? Its obvious by your posts that you don't know more than about 2 lines of what happened. Why don't you read some of the backstory before you start taking to these boards and posting. Feel free to come back when you understand what you are talking about.
 
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No...actually...I didnt. I posted the HuPO ARTICLE...not a link to the Jiminez book.

And what was the HuPO article you posted about? Did you actually read it? Or just a blurb and thought it supported your contention? I'll give you a clue:: The HP article you posted was about the Jimenez book.....DOH!
 
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Drug laws indeed to just that. the war on drugs is another oppressive topic for discussion. ;)

I assume the smiley indicates you get the point. :peace

Can I make a black bakery bake me a klan kake?

Or a jewish person bake me a "german wwII gestapo" anniversery cake?

or what about a gay baker having to make an anti-gay church bake them a cake?

where does it end? and if it ends prematurely are we being as "tolerant" as we claim?

I guess we need to define what we're talking about. If it's about a general law against discrimination on the basis of race, etc. then the downside of them is, of course, that they will require people to serve others we all agree are unsavory, even arguably evil, and that's admittedly a 'bad thing.' But if that's the downside of ALL blacks and ALL Jews and ALL Hispanics and ALL gays having basic access on the same terms as all others to the market, then I'll take it and accept the downside.

If you're asking will I entertain exceptions, of course. We already have written exceptions into the law as they apply to religious orgs. It's an unacceptable downside for a Catholic Church to have to hire a Muslim or atheist for an open Sunday School teacher slot, etc. So I'd be fine if we define additional exceptions for the (IMO) relatively trivial examples of a baker and a photographer, but maintain the general rule.

Otherwise, we have to allow any and all discrimination for any reason or no reason. Religious belief is a non-obstacle, IMO, or should be even if the law could actually reliably determine if a person is refusing to bake a cake for religious reason versus he just hates gays or blacks or jews. And it would apply to businesses who won't supply a black owned restaurant in town of any meat or produce, and so can effectively freeze them out of the market, or won't sell or rent them property.
 
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And what was the HuPO article you posted about? Did you actually read it? Or just a blurb and thought it supported your contention? I'll give you a clue:: The HP article you posted was about the Jimenez book.....DOH!

https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/stephen-jimenez/the-book-of-matt/
Whitson: Jimenez's book on Matthew Shepard shouldn't be dismissed

And based on the verbiage in your response...I'm guessing you read a few snippets and posted them from the Media Matters article. Anything to defend the legacy...right?
 
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Seriously? Do you even know what the story is about? Have you read any of the articles? or are you simply relying on a story that you heard and didn't get any of the details? Its obvious by your posts that you don't know more than about 2 lines of what happened. Why don't you read some of the backstory before you start taking to these boards and posting. Feel free to come back when you understand what you are talking about.
yep. Radio host interviews woman, woman responds to question, bitter angry hate filled intolerant harpies fall from the sky (like they always do) and store owner decides its not safe at this time to open the store.

What did we miss?
 
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An Indiana pizzeria remained closed on Wednesday, embroiled in a national debate after its owners said that they would not cater gay marriages due to their religious beliefs.

Read the article here: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

I don't claim to be an expert on this, but how many gay weddings are followed up by pizza parties? :roll:

My guess is that these people are declining to serve people who would never be their customers.


The family that runs the Pizzeria should be able to whether the storm thanks to GoFundMe.
 
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Same reason to black guys cant find another bakery.

If being gay were visibly obvious, you'd see this sort of discrimination a lot more.

That's WAY different, and you know it.

Black guys aren't seeking attention for being black guys. So often, gay people thrive on attention for being gay (hence, the overly compensated effeminate flamboyance). You don't think this bakery was purposefully chosen? There are tons of other bakeries they could have chosen, but this one fit their cause.

I'm getting tired of the gay community comparing itself to the plight of black people in American history.
 
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For the same reason that blacks didn't just go find another lunch counter to eat at. Maybe sitting in the balcony away from the white folk that don't want to catch their "disgusting blackness" got old.

Enough with the black-gay comparison. That's like comparing a water balloon fight with World War II.

Gay people can go eat lunch wherever they want. Nobody will know they're gay.....unless they absolutely want them to. If you're an attention whore, you don't get to choose the reaction you get.

Black people fought TRUE discrimination. Most of this gay "cause" is purely concocted, look-at-me nonsense.
 
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