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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Except the government wasn't handing out bibles at public schools. Volunteers from churches do. Yet those against such acts say that its not allowed due to it being considered as an endorsement of religion by the government if the schools allow it.

    And the lengths you are going to dismiss reality and other peoples views shows that you don't care about other peoples views. Just your own.
    A public school is not a private business. Two different things.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Who said anything about slaves? There are more kinds of servitude than just slavery you know.
    You did. You mentioned servitude
    servitude: definition of servitude in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)
    The state of being a slave or completely subject to someone more powerful.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    You don't get to determine what another person considers a religious act
    No, I don't.

    The courts do.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    If he knows the buyer is going to use the bat to bash someone's head in, then he is endorsing violence if he sells the bat
    Idiotic analogy

    Assault is illegal. SSM is not.

    Not anymore
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The person who considers it a religious act. That should be obvious. Or do you wish to control what other people think and believe?
    Religious Activity Law & Legal Definition

    Religious Activity is defined as any activity that primarily promotes or manifests a particular belief in or about a deity or an ultimate reality. Rosenberger v. Rector & Visitors of the Univ. of Va., 515 U.S. 819, 825 (U.S. 1995)
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Sangha.

    I never felt particularly religious while eating a pizza! I must have missed a step somewhere along the way... I'll work on that!
    Don't worry about it. After all, it's not a cake

    Pizza is a pie!!!
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Selling a cake to someone does not equal giving up your own beliefs or change how you think. If you sell a shirt a Muslim wears to their Mosque does that make you a Muslim? Or any less of a Christian? Does it mean you can no longer believe anything you want? No, no, and no. It means you sold him a shirt.
    Correct. The argument that catering an event requires, or even implies, an endorsement or approval of the event is just a lie the right repeats to rationalize their loathesome bigotry


    A business does not have individual rights. You don't have to let blacks, gays, women, or anyone else into your home. Your private residence. You don't have to talk to gay people. When you open a business though and open it up to the public there's a different set of rules.
    Businesses do have rights, but the govt has the power to limit the rights of both businesses or individuals when it has an legitimate governmental interest in doing so (subject to limitations)
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    That is not what she said at all. In fact, the owner said that if a gay person came into their restaurant and asked them to "provide" pizza for their wedding, they would have to refuse. They didn't mention what everyone is assuming catering to be here. There is no way to fit a group that could eat 20 pizzas in that small little place. So those pizzas would be to go. She, the owner, was talking about the situation I described.

    And no, the reporter would not be libel for slander, because what I described is a form of catering. The food providers do not have to be present at the event or even deliver the food to the actual event to be considered "catering" the event.
    This Pizza Parlor Is Indiana's First Business to Deny Service to LGBT Customers - Eater

    Co-owner Crystal O'Connor told a local news station that if a gay couple wanted to order pizzas for their wedding, "we would have to say no."
    Their statement clearly shows they would refuse any order to for pizza meant to be consumed at a SSM.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Businesses do have rights, but the govt has the power to limit the rights of both businesses or individuals when it has an legitimate governmental interest in doing so (subject to limitations)
    Government's legitimate force is limited to the protection and proliferation of the individual's rights and liberties. Many bad things happen when the government acts just for the sake of government interest.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    The guy in this video makes some excellent points:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=RgWIhYAtan4


    I am waiting for the outcry...but, I won't hold my breath!


    (It is a little over 5 minutes long)

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