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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Don't need a different set of laws for each individual. Just don't force business owners to provide service that they do not wish to provide. Simple as that.
    They don't have to. If they provide a service though they have to provide it to everyone. If you don't want to serve gay weddings don't provide services to wedding.

    If someone decides they don't want to serve portions of the public does the public have the right to vote them out of that area...zoned to provide commerce for the public?
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    If you believe I'm the devil, you've got bigger issues than pizza at gay weddings.
    The Devil constantly whispers in your ear asking you to have doubt and give into temptation.

    I know it's not you but, wha t you asked reminded me.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You watched only part of an interview. The reporter went on to say that they would not cater to gay weddings.



    Listen to what the reporter says at 0:59.
    Which would be the reporter changing the wording of her response. The news reporter is putting words in the woman's mouth. And there are different ways to "cater" a wedding, including providing food in the way I described, simply picking up enough food for the people attending an event.

    Are you saying that you honestly believe that the pizzeria wasn't talking about a refusal of a scenario I described?
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    They don't have to. If they provide a service though they have to provide it to everyone. If you don't want to serve gay weddings don't provide services to wedding.
    In other words people are required to give up their personal beliefs and everyone must think alike in order to own a business. Thanks but no thanks. Living in such a society would be extremely boring and extremely restrictive.

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    If someone decides they don't want to serve portions of the public does the public have the right to vote them out of that area...zoned to provide commerce for the public?
    No, the public never has a right to violate individual Rights.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Christians are always the enemy, Jesus has told us so many times.

    I wonder if any Muslim owned establishments are serving gay and lesbian couples? Sikhs?

    You will never see a protest there.

    In some places in the middle east they behead homosexuals...and this gang wants to give them jobs.
    Ahh yes, the old "liberals love Muslims" meme.

    Also, do people really still believe the Fox News version of that "give them jobs" deal? Really? You never actually bothered to go watch the actual video and see what was actually said? Weren't you the least bit curious?
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Which would be the reporter changing the wording of her response. The news reporter is putting words in the woman's mouth. And there are different ways to "cater" a wedding, including providing food in the way I described, simply picking up enough food for the people attending an event.
    Doing such would open them up to a libel lawsuit. Not going to happen.

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Are you saying that you honestly believe that the pizzeria wasn't talking about a refusal of a scenario I described?
    The store owner said it themselves. They would not refuse service to anyone that walked into their store to buy a pizza. So yes, they were not talking about your scenario.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Closing isn't much of an issue for them. They raised 1/2 million dollars on the internet in one day from supporters. They can move elsewhere and open a serious restaurant. The bullies caused them to get a financial windfall from it.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    In other words people are required to give up their personal beliefs and everyone must think alike in order to own a business. Thanks but no thanks. Living in such a society would be extremely boring and extremely restrictive.
    Selling a cake to someone does not equal giving up your own beliefs or change how you think. If you sell a shirt a Muslim wears to their Mosque does that make you a Muslim? Or any less of a Christian? Does it mean you can no longer believe anything you want? No, no, and no. It means you sold him a shirt.

    No, the public never has a right to violate individual Rights.
    A business does not have individual rights. You don't have to let blacks, gays, women, or anyone else into your home. Your private residence. You don't have to talk to gay people. When you open a business though and open it up to the public there's a different set of rules.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Perhaps to send a clear message to the bitter angry hate filled intolerant gaystapo that they are tired of their bull****. Sort of like the Chik-Fil-A response.
    So give them your money to make a point? I don't understand that line of thinking. If it's a politician, a charity, or a preacher it makes sense.

    By this logic, I can have a profitable business by simply claiming I won't serve gays and then moan about how the ebil libruls are ruining me.


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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Come now Polgara, you know very well that it isn't about the pizza but about the service and endorsement beliefs.
    Good morning, Kal'Stang.

    I know. It's just unreal to me that the discussion about "rights" on this topic have deteriorated to this point in our Country. Emotion, rather than logic, seems to have taken over on what should be a dry legal matter. Maybe that's how things get handled these days, on both sides of the coin - create chaos to get attention. When I see the "pushback" that is taking place with the financial outpouring for the pizzeria, it appears that both sides are digging in their heels to show where they stand. What's next?

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