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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by BrewerBob View Post
    Sorry, not all beliefs are deserving of tolerance.
    Then you don't know the meaning of the word tolerance. here I will post it for you.

    the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with

    I am not tolerant of bigotry.
    except when spouting your own bigoted views then you are very tolerant.

    But if they want to advertise their bigotry then I believe they deserve to be put out of business by people withholding their patronage.
    That is up for people to decide.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I can only go by what the co-owner told the media:

    “I don’t know if we will reopen, or if we can, if it’s safe to reopen,” co-owner Crystal O’Connor told TheBlaze TV. “We’re in hiding basically, staying in the house.”

    Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed
    Yeah, that's a great way to get more donations, isn't it? Poor us, we can't work. 1st thing this morning I read those donations were at 40k, now it's 50k.

    Next week they'll be laughing their tanned asses off while on a beach in the Caribbean.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What you don't seem to understand is that there are actually people out there that support actual RIGHTS. Not emotional appeals or belief systems based on emotion. Gays have a right to marry. Companies have a right to associate with who they want. NO ONE has a right to force a service from ANYONE.
    That is not true. We have a regulated marketplace and the state has the power to pass laws which ensure it operates efficiently

    And if that means defending a companies right to discriminate against gays, blacks, whites or whatever then yes, I will do so. I won't give them my business. But I sure as hell will defend their Rights. Because those Rights are the same ones that I have and no way in hell am I going to give up ANY Right. No matter how messed up that Right can be used for. The only way that a Right can be abridged is if it harms someone. And denying a service does not harm ANYONE.
    Rights do not have to harm anyone in order for them to be limited. Falsely yelling "Fire" in a crowded theatre is considered endangerment even if no one reacts. And that's not the only example where rights are limited even if no one is harmed.

    Besides, this sort of discrimination hurts commerce which causes a harm to the nation as a whole.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I wish them lots of luck, all bad, in all of their future projects.
    Any moron is free to enter the business world.....again and again and again.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Look, you dunno the diff between actual discrimination and *criticism*

    Why would i, how could i, bother to boycott a shanty town pizza joint that refuses to serve me anyway and is 500 miles away?

    But the one thing i can do is condemn them for their *hateful attitude*, and you aren't going to stop me
    Yes I do know the difference. Considering your comments in this thread....its discrimination.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    I read another news report about a reporter that ruined the life of a family and small business. The place closed, maybe temporarily, maybe for good because of death threats from liberals.


    What does that have to do with this thread?




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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Then exercise your right to not go into business.
    I also have a right to open a business. So long as I'm not harming anyone. Why would you deny me that right?
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sorry but just because someone opens up a business does not mean that their rights to religion or free association goes away. I know that you wish it were otherwise but that is just not the case.

    As for the business suffering, that's the owner of the businesses choice isn't it? I know this might be a foreign concept to some people but not everyone opens up a business just to make money.

    As for my "braying" I'm sure that you're well aware that I personally support SSM...right? I've got the posting history to prove it both here and in other forums. For instance, ask Hicup (who is against SSM) how much we debated SSM in the past via a PM.

    What you don't seem to understand is that there are actually people out there that support actual RIGHTS. Not emotional appeals or belief systems based on emotion. Gays have a right to marry. Companies have a right to associate with who they want. NO ONE has a right to force a service from ANYONE. And if that means defending a companies right to discriminate against gays, blacks, whites or whatever then yes, I will do so. I won't give them my business. But I sure as hell will defend their Rights. Because those Rights are the same ones that I have and no way in hell am I going to give up ANY Right. No matter how messed up that Right can be used for. The only way that a Right can be abridged is if it harms someone. And denying a service does not harm ANYONE.
    I'll have to get out by COTUS and the BOR, as I must have missed these rights.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yes I do know the difference. Considering your comments in this thread....its discrimination.
    if i dished out to them as much retribution as suffering they wish to cause to lgbt...

    that would be exactly what they deserve

    all you're doing is making me associate you with them

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    LOL don't you see that is what they're doing to homosexuals? Except one is bronze age beliefs that have no merit, while the other is an identity
    Another example of how you haven't criticized so much as discriminated against. (IE: Your little jab here at a belief system)

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    no all you're saying is that boycotting a business that won't serve blacks is legitimate opposition, while *criticizing* a business that won't serve gays is discrimination...
    It's discrimination when you want force used to stop a business from discrimination. It's discrimination when you base your argument on ad homs toward another belief system.
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