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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    You and I both know it would never, ever happen. Christians are the enemy here. Christians must realize that these rights have been established whether they approve or not, and they must honor them. There has been no foul here, but the mere mention of the fact that some hold beliefs which transcend secular society's norms and laws troubles the militant gay community greatly. It's not possible to force endorsement.
    They can have any personal beliefs they want but wrapping it in religion is what is wrong. No one is asking someone to create a cake for a gay wedding and sign off on the marriage certificate. This is about commerce and the only versus in the bible that deal with commerce are about being fair in business to the people you trade with and your workers. There are a ton of versus regarding trading with people that you may not agree with. There's no verse that says "You can not trade cloth that will be used to worship an idol" but plenty of the Jews trading with other groups.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Screw them. They made their bed, now they can lie in it.
    Thanks to the hateful intolerant bigoted disgusting low lifes threatening their lives and lively hood they can now buy as many beds as they see fit.

    Nice ones too !

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    They don't cater at all and they didn't even say the words "cater" or "catering". She said " provide" pizza to a gay couple coming into the shop for their marriage/wedding. In other words, if a gay guy or lesbian came in to the pizzeria and ordered 20 pizzas from them, and the owners asked them, "having a party?". Guy/gal answers "yes I just got married back in the state my <husband/wife> is from and we wanted to celebrate our marriage here with our friends and family here", they would be refused service. Because that is very similar to what happened in the Colorado bakery case. (Now in this particular town, vying some very recent changes, the couple would almost certainly be lesbian in the case above since their demographics have them as having 0% gay men and only 0.7% or 0.07% gay women (maybe 14 or 2 lesbians).)
    Actually yes, they did say they wouldn't cater to a gay wedding as reported by the reporter that interviewed them.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    They can have any personal beliefs they want but wrapping it in religion is what is wrong. No one is asking someone to create a cake for a gay wedding and sign off on the marriage certificate. This is about commerce and the only versus in the bible that deal with commerce are about being fair in business to the people you trade with and your workers. There are a ton of versus regarding trading with people that you may not agree with. There's no verse that says "You can not trade cloth that will be used to worship an idol" but plenty of the Jews trading with other groups.
    It is about commerce to YOU. Other people obviously feel otherwise. And who are you to tell people what they believe?
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Greetings, Sangha.

    I never felt particularly religious while eating a pizza! I must have missed a step somewhere along the way... I'll work on that!
    Come now Polgara, you know very well that it isn't about the pizza but about the service and endorsement beliefs.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It is about commerce to YOU. Other people obviously feel otherwise. And who are you to tell people what they believe?
    So we should have a different set of laws for each individual person based on what exactly they believe in? That's total chaos. There is no infringement on religion for someone selling something being used in a gay wedding. It's not just bad public policy it's bad theology.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    So we should have a different set of laws for each individual person based on what exactly they believe in? That's total chaos. There is no infringement on religion for someone selling something being used in a gay wedding. It's not just bad public policy it's bad theology.
    Don't need a different set of laws for each individual. Just don't force business owners to provide service that they do not wish to provide. Simple as that.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Actually yes, they did say they wouldn't cater to a gay wedding as reported by the reporter that interviewed them.
    I watched the interview. That is not the wording the girl used.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I watched the interview. That is not the wording the girl used.
    You watched only part of an interview. The reporter went on to say that they would not cater to gay weddings.



    Listen to what the reporter says at 0:59.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    And where in Jesus' teachings has he given you or anyone the right to judge the morality of others?

    If you are an average person, you will tell a minimum of three lies a day. If you are a normal person you will look at a women covetously st least twice a day and think about sex about three times an hour.

    Is that sinning no more?

    I think we, as Christians need to remember Jesus hung out with the sinners and made fools of the self righteous, those who could not throw the first stone.

    No where have I seen anything where he says we are the world's morality police, in fact, the opposite.
    We are all sinner s. Sin no more means working on omitting sin from your life and walking with Christ. It's a long process for most of us.

    Most of all Christ wanted us to obey the words of his Father. Buy practicing and supporting homosexuality, we are headed in the wrong direction.
    32 “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33 But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
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