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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

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    ridiculous, $ justifies anything

    change your lean to "libertarian" at least so i'll know to not bother in the future
    Money justifies everything....Sounds like a line from the Godfather.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I have trouble believing you actually believe they don't. It's been more than 50 years since the govt has been banning discrimination.

    You have not presented any argument that shows the govt can't ban discrimination other than "They can't do that" while I have referred to the numerous laws which have withstood court challenges. Even the wingnut christians who want to discriminate aren't claiming that the govt doesn't have the power to ban discrimination against gays - they're only arguing that they should have a religious exemption from that ban.

    If they believed as you do, they wouldn't have a passed a law granting an exemption for the religious; They would have filed a court case.
    Again, just because the government does do something doesn't mean they actually can Constitutionally. And its not the first time that something unconstitutional has stayed on the books for decades.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    He is not me, and the govt handing out bibles at a public school to children is an entirely different thing than selling a pizza.

    The lengths you are going to find something analogous to support the claim that catering is an endorsement goes to show just how tenous a grip on reality that argument has.
    Except the government wasn't handing out bibles at public schools. Volunteers from churches do. Yet those against such acts say that its not allowed due to it being considered as an endorsement of religion by the government if the schools allow it.

    And the lengths you are going to dismiss reality and other peoples views shows that you don't care about other peoples views. Just your own.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Last time I checked, slaves weren't allowed to open their own business, nor were they free to quit if they didn't like what the job required.

    There is no servitude.
    Who said anything about slaves? There are more kinds of servitude than just slavery you know.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I would love to see a same sex couple ask one then publicize it when they didn't.

    I wonder if the reaction would be the same, I mean try to put them out of business or burn them down.
    You and I both know it would never, ever happen. Christians are the enemy here. Christians must realize that these rights have been established whether they approve or not, and they must honor them. There has been no foul here, but the mere mention of the fact that some hold beliefs which transcend secular society's norms and laws troubles the militant gay community greatly. It's not possible to force endorsement.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    They are free to practice their religion

    Not selling a pizza is not a religious practice

    Though an argument could be made that bigotry is
    You don't get to determine what another person considers a religious act

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    C'mon Kal. You're smarter than that

    This law isn't limited to pizzarias and I've already explained how such discrimination can affect commerce.
    Maybe the real problem is single people. If people don't get married, there is no wedding to cater and thus commerce is harmed

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    You don't get to determine what another person considers a religious act
    Who does?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Except the government wasn't handing out bibles at public schools. Volunteers from churches do. Yet those against such acts say that its not allowed due to it being considered as an endorsement of religion by the government if the schools allow it.

    And the lengths you are going to dismiss reality and other peoples views shows that you don't care about other peoples views. Just your own.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    NO, it's not an endorsement. Restaurants and caterers serve all sorts of people. It is not an endorsement of anything they do just as the seller of a bat isn't endorsing violence if someone uses a bat to bash someone's skull in.



    A public school is not a commercial enterprise, and we're talking about adults getting married, not schoolchildren in school.



    No, the cake is of no religious significance.
    If he knows the buyer is going to use the bat to bash someone's head in, then he is endorsing violence if he sells the bat

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