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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sorry but just because someone opens up a business does not mean that their rights to religion or free association goes away. I know that you wish it were otherwise but that is just not the case.

    As for the business suffering, that's the owner of the businesses choice isn't it? I know this might be a foreign concept to some people but not everyone opens up a business just to make money.

    As for my "braying" I'm sure that you're well aware that I personally support SSM...right? I've got the posting history to prove it both here and in other forums. For instance, ask Hicup (who is against SSM) how much we debated SSM in the past via a PM.

    What you don't seem to understand is that there are actually people out there that support actual RIGHTS. Not emotional appeals or belief systems based on emotion. Gays have a right to marry. Companies have a right to associate with who they want. NO ONE has a right to force a service from ANYONE. And if that means defending a companies right to discriminate against gays, blacks, whites or whatever then yes, I will do so. I won't give them my business. But I sure as hell will defend their Rights. Because those Rights are the same ones that I have and no way in hell am I going to give up ANY Right. No matter how messed up that Right can be used for. The only way that a Right can be abridged is if it harms someone. And denying a service does not harm ANYONE.
    Then exercise your right to not go into business.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    it's a boycott over discriminatory treatment of a minority group. False equivalence if there was

    I'm sure you'd keep going to a pizza place that had "no blacks" sign on the front window, i mean get real
    discriminating against someone religious views is still discrimination or did you not realize this.
    where is the tolerance that you people harp on so much.

    to call them bigots means that you are one yourself or did you not realize this. therefore you have become the very thing that you hate.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Boycotting them is your right. But that is not what you have done in this thread. All you've done in this thread is promote discrimination against people that don't share your beliefs.
    LOL don't you see that is what they're doing to homosexuals? Except one is bronze age beliefs that have no merit, while the other is an identity

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    As for the sign bit, nope I wouldn't. That is what boycotting is. Not giving my service to someone. Complete opposite of what you're doing.
    no all you're saying is that boycotting a business that won't serve blacks is legitimate opposition, while *criticizing* a business that won't serve gays is discrimination...

    that makes so little sense i think i will get drunk so i can understand it better...

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    What? Do you think that gay's don't like pizza or something? Yeah, you are definitely not an expert. So why say something so lacking in knowledge?

    Personally I'm all for gays having a pizza party on their wedding day. To any business that wants to cater it. But I don't believe in forcing anyone to serve anyone else either. This is not the 1200's. We don't live a serf life.


    What's stopping you from throwing lots of pizza parties for lots of gay people then?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Do you know why they're closed?
    I can only go by what the co-owner told the media:

    “I don’t know if we will reopen, or if we can, if it’s safe to reopen,” co-owner Crystal O’Connor told TheBlaze TV. “We’re in hiding basically, staying in the house.”

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    “We said we would serve anyone that came in that door, even gays,” Crystal told The Blaze. “But we would not condone a wedding. We would not cater to that.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/donors-raise-cash-indiana-pizza-shop-gay-marriage-slap-article-1.2170564





    KILL HER!!!!!
    No ****!

    There is a difference between the two? Really?

    So if the wedding party came into the store to eat, it is OK, right?

    If the wedding party ordered their pizzas to go to cater their own wedding, it would be OK also, right?

    Like I said, hypocrisy disguised as Christianity.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    An Indiana pizzeria remained closed on Wednesday, embroiled in a national debate after its owners said that they would not cater gay marriages due to their religious beliefs.

    Read the article here: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    I don't claim to be an expert on this, but how many gay weddings are followed up by pizza parties?

    My guess is that these people are declining to serve people who would never be their customers.

    I read another news report about a reporter that ruined the life of a family and small business. The place closed, maybe temporarily, maybe for good because of death threats from liberals.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    What's stopping you from throwing lots of pizza parties for lots of gay people then?
    Not a damn thing.

    They could put their pictures in with the thank you letter to the store!
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    This situation brings to mind one of Publilius Syrus' Maxims from the first century B.C.: "I have often regretted my speech, never my silence." There was no compelling need whatsoever for the pizzeria's owner to inject herself into a civil rights matter in the fashion she did, much less over an extremely low probability scenario. Now, at least for the time being, the pizzeria is closed, the reputation of its owner is damaged, and it has perhaps lost a number of customers regardless of whether it reopens.


    I wish them lots of luck, all bad, in all of their future projects.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    An Indiana pizzeria remained closed on Wednesday, embroiled in a national debate after its owners said that they would not cater gay marriages due to their religious beliefs.

    Read the article here: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    I don't claim to be an expert on this, but how many gay weddings are followed up by pizza parties?

    My guess is that these people are declining to serve people who would never be their customers.
    Should a Muslim butcher be forced to sell pork?
    Should a Kosher Deli be forced to offer non kosher items for Christians?
    Should an atheist Bookstore owner be forced to sell Bible's or the Koran?

    There are a lot of things "Religious Freedom" covers....not just opposition to Gay weddings.
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