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Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

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I can only go by what the co-owner told the media:

“I don’t know if we will reopen, or if we can, if it’s safe to reopen,” co-owner Crystal O’Connor told TheBlaze TV. “We’re in hiding basically, staying in the house.”

Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

ReverendHellHound provided an answer in post #48. :)
 
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does pedophilia fall under your tolerance umbrella?

see that is the thing I have never spouted to be a tolerant person. in fact I am very intolerant of certain behaviors and some people.
however go back and see the definition of tolerance. people that spout it don't know what it means. they like to preach it because it sounds good,
however when you get down into the definition of tolerance they are sorely not tolerant.
 
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Another example of how you haven't criticized so much as discriminated against. (IE: Your little jab here at a belief system)



It's discrimination when you want force used to stop a business from discrimination. It's discrimination when you base your argument on ad homs toward another belief system.

Here let me make it clear so you can stop thinking you'll shame me into a mea culpa: **** religion!!

Now what force has been used to stop them from anything? I've already explained it's the gays in those towns that are shoved into the closet for fear of their lives, NOT the bigot business owners

They are simply cowards and defrauding the donators with these lies
 
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see that is the thing I have never spouted to be a tolerant person. in fact I am very intolerant of certain behaviors and some people.
however go back and see the definition of tolerance. people that spout it don't know what it means. they like to preach it because it sounds good,
however when you get down into the definition of tolerance they are sorely not tolerant.

fine, not you.

but if one claims to be tolerant, must* one tolerate pedophilia? murder?

you said to the effect of "all beliefs, behaviors"
 
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You mentioned that the pizzeria closed, not why. The owners were afraid for their lives and the safety of their staff. They didn't seek out the notoriety, they were sought out by a local news caster. The unintended consequence of her news report was the loss of a family business and fear created for the family.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

you actually believe that crap

well go donate another $50k if you're so sure

btw their "staff" is only 2 ppl, themselves. That's what a 'mom and pop' is
 
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That is not true. We have a regulated marketplace and the state has the power to pass laws which ensure it operates efficiently

The regulation is valid when its meant to prevent harm. No other time is it valid.

Rights do not have to harm anyone in order for them to be limited. Falsely yelling "Fire" in a crowded theatre is considered endangerment even if no one reacts.

Because it has the possibility of causing harm. Whether someone reacts or not is not relevant because there was no way to tell if someone is going to react or not before someone yells "fire". The odds and statistics however are that people WILL react and someone WILL get harmed.

And that's not the only example where rights are limited even if no one is harmed.

Such as?

Besides, this sort of discrimination hurts commerce which causes a harm to the nation as a whole.

The Federal government may only regulate interstate commerce. A business denying someone a service intrastate does not fall with in their purview and does not affect the entire nation as a whole.
 
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ReverendHellHound provided an answer in post #48. :)

The excerpts from the news article mentioned Ms. O'Connor's concern about safety. There's no contradiction between the information in the news article and the tweet ReverendHellHound posted.
 
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The excerpts from the news article mentioned Ms. O'Connor's concern about safety. There's no contradiction between the information in the news article and the tweet ReverendHellHound posted.

There is a contradiction between reality and what they're claiming

and oh yeah, won't someone think of the poor homophobes ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
 
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There was a family owned pizza place in the town i'm from, bout the same size.

They'd get 5-6 sales on a good day. $50k for "lost business" when they voluntarily shut down on a day or two for no reason just shows how imbecilic gay bashers are

Yeah you got to sell a lot of pizzas to make 50k, especially in a small town.

What makes me wonder if this was a stunt is because the owners specially mention they won't carter ' gay weddings', then go on to say they never even catered a wedding. Why even mention something that doesn't affect them?
 
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I'll have to get out by COTUS and the BOR, as I must have missed these rights.

Don't forget to take a good look at the 9th Amendment.

However if you want to read it all strictly like so many that are against SSM then....Gays don't have a Right to Marry.....But of course we both know that going that route is BS huh?
 
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Maybe those calling for tolerance should be more tolerant themselves of others' viewpoints.

Yes indeed. Becoming like those whom they despise is very unbecoming.
 
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if i dished out to them as much retribution as suffering they wish to cause to lgbt...

that would be exactly what they deserve

all you're doing is making me associate you with them

What retribution and suffering are they causing by not providing a service to a gay wedding?

And you can associate me with whoever you want to. That is your prerogative. Won't make it true though. :shrug:
 
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Yeah you got to sell a lot of pizzas to make 50k, especially in a small town.

What makes me wonder if this was a stunt is because the owners specially mention they won't carter ' gay weddings', then go on to say they never even catered a wedding. Why even mention something that doesn't affect them?

Maybe they really are that hateful and pathetic and they just stumbled onto a goldmine completely unwittingly.

A+B =/ A is usually a step too much for bigots to grasp, after all
 
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The excerpts from the news article mentioned Ms. O'Connor's concern about safety. There's no contradiction between the information in the news article and the tweet ReverendHellHound posted.

Correct. One was just her saying that she was concerned about their safety. The other shows why she was concerned.
 
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Yeah you got to sell a lot of pizzas to make 50k, especially in a small town.

What makes me wonder if this was a stunt is because the owners specially mention they won't carter ' gay weddings', then go on to say they never even catered a wedding. Why even mention something that doesn't affect them?

Depends if the news crew showed up looking for a business, any business, to say "sure I won't cater to gays", of if they called the news station to come out and film them saying "I won't cater to gays".

Business rule #1: If a news crew shows up for anything more than a puff piece, show them the door.
 
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An Indiana pizzeria remained closed on Wednesday, embroiled in a national debate after its owners said that they would not cater gay marriages due to their religious beliefs.

Read the article here: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

I don't claim to be an expert on this, but how many gay weddings are followed up by pizza parties? :roll:

My guess is that these people are declining to serve people who would never be their customers.

I must see, if I can get a friend who wants to marry to do that. It is so counterpoint to the way he lives, it might just feel exciting.

Pizza with Camaieu swal in chiffon, color 7 - Scarves - Accessories & Fragrances - Leonard Paris Official

How absolutely chic!
 
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What retribution and suffering are they causing by not providing a service to a gay wedding?

And you can associate me with whoever you want to. That is your prerogative. Won't make it true though. :shrug:

Nah i've been around bigots long enough to know, and the polls back this up - opposition to SSM is roughly identical to opposition to ALL gay rights including consensual sex

They are just lying about where'd they draw the line. They come from a position of hate period
 
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Here let me make it clear so you can stop thinking you'll shame me into a mea culpa: **** religion!!

You just said you are a bigot.
 
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Not a damn thing about gays at all.

I have never heard of anybody having a wedding catered with pizza.

The words 'pizza' and 'catering' are mutually exclusive.

It was a pathetic attempt by moronic pizza shop owners to pander to Christians to increase their business, which blew up in their face.

I'll bet that they even set up their own GoFundMe page, or had a friend do it.

Lying, hypocritical morons.

Or they were just preemptively professing their faith.

Regardless their reasoning, do they deserve the fascist death threats and maligning?
 
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Maybe they really are that hateful and pathetic and they just stumbled onto a goldmine completely unwittingly.

A+B =/ A is usually a step too much for bigots to grasp, after all

Remember, every time you point the finger at someone you have 3 more fingers pointing right back at you.
 
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Nah i've been around bigots long enough to know, and the polls back this up - opposition to SSM is roughly identical to opposition to ALL gay rights including consensual sex

They are just lying about where'd they draw the line. They come from a position of hate period

I sense a bit of hate come from your direction.
 
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No ****!

There is a difference between the two? Really?

So if the wedding party came into the store to eat, it is OK, right?

If the wedding party ordered their pizzas to go to cater their own wedding, it would be OK also, right?

Like I said, hypocrisy disguised as Christianity.




I was being sarcastic. I found the death threats they were getting to be the hypocrisy of the PC "tolerant" crowds intolerance. they said they'd serve everyone, just didn't think it would be right for them to cater a gay event.

And for that, they have been run out of business, due to threats of violence. I


Is this how we should be conducting ourselves? For example, I wouldn't go there because I disagree with thier stance. but I would not threaten them with violence and find that as abhorrent as anything this pizza place said.

In fact, I'd more likely boycott many of those yelp users businesses as well, than worry about this particular pizza place.
 
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Or they were just preemptively professing their faith.

Regardless their reasoning, do they deserve the fascist death threats and maligning?

where is the government threatening them ?
 
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fine, not you.

but if one claims to be tolerant, must* one tolerate pedophilia? murder?

you said to the effect of "all beliefs, behaviors"

I didn't say it that is the definition of the word tolerance. so if you have a problem with the word tolerance then you need to take it up with people that write the dictionary not me.

Tolerance - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
willingness to accept feelings, habits, or beliefs that are different from your own

the fact that you have been misusing the word in order to try and claim some moral high ground in a discussion is not my problem.
the fact is if you are only tolerant of people that believe like you do then you are not tolerant at all.
 
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