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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    And what was the HuPO article you posted about? Did you actually read it? Or just a blurb and thought it supported your contention? I'll give you a clue:: The HP article you posted was about the Jimenez book.....DOH!
    https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-r...-book-of-matt/
    Whitson: Jimenez's book on Matthew Shepard shouldn't be dismissed

    And based on the verbiage in your response...I'm guessing you read a few snippets and posted them from the Media Matters article. Anything to defend the legacy...right?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Seriously? Do you even know what the story is about? Have you read any of the articles? or are you simply relying on a story that you heard and didn't get any of the details? Its obvious by your posts that you don't know more than about 2 lines of what happened. Why don't you read some of the backstory before you start taking to these boards and posting. Feel free to come back when you understand what you are talking about.
    yep. Radio host interviews woman, woman responds to question, bitter angry hate filled intolerant harpies fall from the sky (like they always do) and store owner decides its not safe at this time to open the store.

    What did we miss?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    An Indiana pizzeria remained closed on Wednesday, embroiled in a national debate after its owners said that they would not cater gay marriages due to their religious beliefs.

    Read the article here: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    I don't claim to be an expert on this, but how many gay weddings are followed up by pizza parties?

    My guess is that these people are declining to serve people who would never be their customers.

    The family that runs the Pizzeria should be able to whether the storm thanks to GoFundMe.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Same reason to black guys cant find another bakery.

    If being gay were visibly obvious, you'd see this sort of discrimination a lot more.
    That's WAY different, and you know it.

    Black guys aren't seeking attention for being black guys. So often, gay people thrive on attention for being gay (hence, the overly compensated effeminate flamboyance). You don't think this bakery was purposefully chosen? There are tons of other bakeries they could have chosen, but this one fit their cause.

    I'm getting tired of the gay community comparing itself to the plight of black people in American history.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    For the same reason that blacks didn't just go find another lunch counter to eat at. Maybe sitting in the balcony away from the white folk that don't want to catch their "disgusting blackness" got old.
    Enough with the black-gay comparison. That's like comparing a water balloon fight with World War II.

    Gay people can go eat lunch wherever they want. Nobody will know they're gay.....unless they absolutely want them to. If you're an attention whore, you don't get to choose the reaction you get.

    Black people fought TRUE discrimination. Most of this gay "cause" is purely concocted, look-at-me nonsense.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    bigotry is an overused word by class-warfare hacks.

    if I choose to only date women between the ages of 20-and 26, I'm practicing discrimination, and you could even argue I'm a bigot.

    like the pizza joints discrimination, my discrimination is my right.
    More Orwell....

    Discrimination and bigotry have accepting meanings in common usage and how you're using those words ain't them.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Enough with the black-gay comparison. That's like comparing a water balloon fight with World War II.

    Gay people can go eat lunch wherever they want. Nobody will know they're gay.....unless they absolutely want them to. If you're an attention whore, you don't get to choose the reaction you get.

    Black people fought TRUE discrimination. Most of this gay "cause" is purely concocted, look-at-me nonsense.
    Sheesh, that's just so wrong. So, think of all the people you know and who you know are straight. They were all attention whores? After all, how could you know unless all those people were begging for attention about their straightness....

    Also, too, straight guy declares discrimination against groups he's not one of and is oblivious about says it's not bad at all...

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Sheesh, that's just so wrong. So, think of all the people you know and who you know are straight. They were all attention whores? After all, how could you know unless all those people were begging for attention about their straightness....

    Also, too, straight guy declares discrimination against groups he's not one of and is oblivious about says it's not bad at all...
    So gay is now a "group"?

    LOL

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sorry but just because someone opens up a business does not mean that their rights to religion or free association goes away.
    But what religious right has been taken away from the business owner just by merely selling a product or service?

    As for the business suffering, that's the owner of the businesses choice isn't it?
    And a rather stupid one at that! The customer's money is green no matter who he is. So, I'd think the business owner would need to get his priorities straight. Is he in business to make a profit or is he in business to make a religious point? If for profit, make the sell and be done with it. If for religious points of view, close shop and re-submit your business license as a non-profit 501(c)(3) religious organization...bka, a church.

    I know this might be a foreign concept to some people but not everyone opens up a business just to make money.
    True. Most people start a business to fill a need and hopefully to make a profit. But unless yours is a religious affiliated entity, the "sins" of another or non-conformaty of the customer's religious beliefs to your own should never enter the buyer/seller equation. As such, this entire "religious freedom" thing from the business owners' perspective is BS! It's bigotry wrapped in perceived legitimacy.

    What you don't seem to understand is that there are actually people out there that support actual RIGHTS. Not emotional appeals or belief systems based on emotion. Gays have a right to marry. Companies have a right to associate with who they want. NO ONE has a right to force a service from ANYONE. And if that means defending a companies right to discriminate against gays, blacks, whites or whatever then yes, I will do so. I won't give them my business. But I sure as hell will defend their Rights. Because those Rights are the same ones that I have and no way in hell am I going to give up ANY Right. No matter how messed up that Right can be used for. The only way that a Right can be abridged is if it harms someone. And denying a service does not harm ANYONE.
    To your last statement, I commend you for being willing to stand up on principle, but at some point you have to see the fallacy in your pursuit to defend both sides. You can't be a defender of gay rights and a defender of pro-business practices at any expense. At some point, something's got to give. Thus, I repeat: A gay or lesbian or Black person's money is just as green and spends just as quickly as any heterosexual person or White person. So, unless you're willing to step back from one or the other, be prepared to lose alot of money on an absurd principled conviction.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I'm not really inclined to argue this much more. NO ONE would write that the civil rights workers murdered in Alabama were "bigots." Just isn't how the word is used in the English language. Sorry.
    You are arguing from a losing position so it doesn't matter. the dictionary tells us what words mean not peoples personal opinions.



    It makes perfect sense if you are not fluent in the language and/or therefore ignore the accepted usage of a word.
    which you are not doing. you are using an incorrect definition of the word as a way to obtain some moral high ground.
    when shown what the word actually means you rant at rave because someone points out to you that you are not the tolerant person you think you are.

    What you're arguing could apply to the term 'faggot.' It does have a meaning other than the slur, but in 2015 it has an accepted, common usage, and if you want to use it to describe something other than as a slur (e.g. a unit of measure of a bundle of sticks), then additional context is required.
    it depends on usuage. faggot is an old british word probably still used in the more rural parts.
    that is totally irrelevant to this case though. while tolerance has multiple meanings for different situations. we know the definition of the word used in this case.

    So if you're arguing it's possible to use "bigot" to refer to civil rights workers in Alabama, fine. But to use it in that context, you are obligated to provide that additional context - they were bigots because they were intolerant of stone cold racists in the South.
    I have mention nothing of this. I am telling you that people that call themselves tolerant but throw vile hate filled words at people with a different opinion are not tolerant but the exact opposite. which is correct usage based on the definition of the word. you are attempting to argue a strawman.

    OK, so now someone who accepts people of all races, religions, sexual orientation and rejects white supremacy, racism, and homophobia isn't tolerant, we have to describe them as intolerant of intolerance. That's great. Yep, that's how the language is commonly used. Much better ...

    Orwell is smiling!
    please see the definition of tolerance. I will post it again for you if you like.

    a fair, and permissive attitude toward opinions, beliefs, and practices that differ from one's own.

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