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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....have you even followed the Jimenez bunk? It was discredited before it ever came out. His entire book was based on an "anonymous letter that he just happened to stumble upon". His book tanked and was widely debunked. Try harder next time.
    Its not about Jimenez...its about what other reporters have found out and what the truth is regarding the actual players. What you are doing is as weak as expressing criticism of a news video because it happens to be played on Fox News.

    Bang that drum, baby.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No...I thought those protests were lame. But this one played you guys like fools....and quite profitably. He knew exactly what he was doing here.
    She. Funny you keep having a problem with gender identity.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Your attempt to derail the discussion into absurdity is rejected.
    I didn't derail a thing. unlike you, I am being honest about discrimination

    you don't like it, but the issue that divides us is we don't see rights change based on what side of the employee/employer relationship you fall under.

    class warfare advocates like yourself have different rules...and those rules are what is causing these fights.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    She. Funny you keep having a problem with gender identity.
    You obviously don't even know the facts of the story. The woman gave the interviewer. Her FATHER is the owner of the business. He is the one who shut it down. DOH! LOL

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You obviously don't even know the facts of the story. The woman gave the interviewer. Her FATHER is the owner of the business. He is the one who shut it down. DOH! LOL
    Who made the statements? DOH!!!

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Its not about Jimenez...its about what other reporters have found out and what the truth is regarding the actual players. What you are doing is as weak as expressing criticism of a news video because it happens to be played on Fox News.

    Bang that drum, baby.
    LOL....seriously? YOU are the one who tried to back up your claim with the widely discredited Jimenez book. Look at YOUR OWN post and link. Wow........too friggin funny.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....seriously? YOU are the one who tried to back up your claim with the widely discredited Jimenez book. Look at YOUR OWN post and link. Wow........too friggin funny.
    No...actually...I didnt. I posted the HuPO ARTICLE...not a link to the Jiminez book.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Who made the statements? DOH!!!
    Seriously? Do you even know what the story is about? Have you read any of the articles? or are you simply relying on a story that you heard and didn't get any of the details? Its obvious by your posts that you don't know more than about 2 lines of what happened. Why don't you read some of the backstory before you start taking to these boards and posting. Feel free to come back when you understand what you are talking about.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    No...actually...I didnt. I posted the HuPO ARTICLE...not a link to the Jiminez book.
    And what was the HuPO article you posted about? Did you actually read it? Or just a blurb and thought it supported your contention? I'll give you a clue:: The HP article you posted was about the Jimenez book.....DOH!

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Drug laws indeed to just that. the war on drugs is another oppressive topic for discussion.
    I assume the smiley indicates you get the point.

    Can I make a black bakery bake me a klan kake?

    Or a jewish person bake me a "german wwII gestapo" anniversery cake?

    or what about a gay baker having to make an anti-gay church bake them a cake?

    where does it end? and if it ends prematurely are we being as "tolerant" as we claim?
    I guess we need to define what we're talking about. If it's about a general law against discrimination on the basis of race, etc. then the downside of them is, of course, that they will require people to serve others we all agree are unsavory, even arguably evil, and that's admittedly a 'bad thing.' But if that's the downside of ALL blacks and ALL Jews and ALL Hispanics and ALL gays having basic access on the same terms as all others to the market, then I'll take it and accept the downside.

    If you're asking will I entertain exceptions, of course. We already have written exceptions into the law as they apply to religious orgs. It's an unacceptable downside for a Catholic Church to have to hire a Muslim or atheist for an open Sunday School teacher slot, etc. So I'd be fine if we define additional exceptions for the (IMO) relatively trivial examples of a baker and a photographer, but maintain the general rule.

    Otherwise, we have to allow any and all discrimination for any reason or no reason. Religious belief is a non-obstacle, IMO, or should be even if the law could actually reliably determine if a person is refusing to bake a cake for religious reason versus he just hates gays or blacks or jews. And it would apply to businesses who won't supply a black owned restaurant in town of any meat or produce, and so can effectively freeze them out of the market, or won't sell or rent them property.

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