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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    I'm not particularly crying for them even though I found the antics childish.

    I dont think they are under actual danger, but are milking the victim status afforded to them now.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Could be worse though. Plenty families still totally reject them upon finding out.
    Yep, a good friend of my brother's - a very good human being by any account other than he's homosexual - was so completely disowned/rejected he didn't find out about his mother's illness (cancer) or death until 2 months after her funeral, so dad, and two siblings, couldn't bother to make a phone call, send an email. They'd send b'day or Christmas presents from him back, unopened. Would hang up if he called. Etc. Pretty sad.

    Sometimes I hope that many of those who seem unconcerned about discrimination against gays just don't have a clue what kind of actual discrimination still takes place in this country. It's far better than it used to be, but the kind of hostility that motivates an entire family to disown their son/brother/sister still exists, and so suggestions that we "tolerate" or especially respect these kinds of opinions is pretty absurd from where I sit.

    You want to argue that they should be allowed to discriminate and refuse service? Fine. I disagree and the laws are quickly coming around to a view to make it illegal. But don't tell they're just faithful to their religion. BS. It's a kind of hate reserved for homosexuals (and maybe child rapists) that has nothing to do with religion.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Should businesses be able to refuse Christians?
    Absolutely, if they're trying to conduct a Bible study in their business.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Obviously your opinion is that being gay IS NOT an immutable characteristic. Being a skinhead, neo-nazi is assuredly not an immutable characteristic. They like to wear their blatant bigotry on their skin - and usually in a place to be seen in plain sight.

    Now if a person was born with a swastika birth mark...that would be an immutable characteristic. While it's still a symbol people might find offensive, the birth mark wasn't by choice.

    So in my opinion, your objections to gays is like telling blacks that they can't go the grocery store until they take off their dark skin.
    I don't believe our creator would allow someone to be born in such a way they would be forced to live a deviant lifestyle. (In his eyes)

    I also do not recognize any analogy that involves the plight of Black with that of the homosexuals. Imo, it's beyond comparison in this country.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Yep, a good friend of my brother's - a very good human being by any account other than he's homosexual - was so completely disowned/rejected he didn't find out about his mother's illness (cancer) or death until 2 months after her funeral, so dad, and two siblings, couldn't bother to make a phone call, send an email. They'd send b'day or Christmas presents from him back, unopened. Would hang up if he called. Etc. Pretty sad.
    This is not unique to gay people. A lot of families do a lot of awful things to each other.

    That is, when there used to be a lot of families. Those days are gone.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    An Indiana pizzeria remained closed on Wednesday, embroiled in a national debate after its owners said that they would not cater gay marriages due to their religious beliefs.

    Read the article here: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    I don't claim to be an expert on this, but how many gay weddings are followed up by pizza parties?

    My guess is that these people are declining to serve people who would never be their customers.
    Other than the illegal and immoral acts used to harass the pizza joint, I would say this is a perfect example of libertarianism in action. Dont like a business, cause them to change through speech or boycott. We dont have to force them to change through police action.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    This is not unique to gay people. A lot of families do a lot of awful things to each other.
    I'm not sure what the point is - because some other families are equally cruel, it's OK or something?

    That is, when there used to be a lot of families. Those days are gone.
    Well, that's not true. Every child has a family, just not a 'traditional' family.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    How did this place close when they just got 50k from Gofundme?
    They're counting the loot.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I'm not sure what the point is - because some other families are equally cruel, it's OK or something?



    Well, that's not true. Every child has a family, just not a 'traditional' family.
    The point is, you can't legislate that people to love their gay kids.

    And the destruction of the traditional family is responsible for 90 percent of the ills of this country.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    How did this place close when they just got 50k from Gofundme?
    They aren't closed due to lack of business, but due to threats from outside agitators. They actually should sue Yelp for creating the threat conditions. They have allowed folks who have never frequented the business to give false reviews and create an environment of threats.

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