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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It is called free speech. It is not always pretty. It is sometimes very ugly and hateful. But we believe in allowing it in our country. Just as some religious folk can stand on street corners and preach that fags are going to burn in hell and hand out their literature.
    An argument can be made as to whether or not it's free speech, but no argument can be made to call it an example of the free market

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    On the plus side, all of the vile hatred expressed towards them gave a fair number of people the opportunity to express which side of the issue they came down on...including more than a few gay couples that actually supported the pizzeria owners. Classiest and most gracious act of the whole affair if you ask me.

    That's been much of the reaction in the gay community here.

    It still sends a huge message that not one, not one "liberal" has condemned the actions. And once again run from it, deny it or minimize it.

    My respect for Americans over all has plummeted. What you people call 'liberals' I call sick ****s. they adore a lying bag of **** like Hillary, support a dishonest self involved prick as president and with silence condone death threats because of a hypothetical situation.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    That's been much of the reaction in the gay community here.

    It still sends a huge message that not one, not one "liberal" has condemned the actions. And once again run from it, deny it or minimize it.

    My respect for Americans over all has plummeted. What you people call 'liberals' I call sick ****s. they adore a lying bag of **** like Hillary, support a dishonest self involved prick as president and with silence condone death threats because of a hypothetical situation.
    Good morning, F&L.

    Keep repeating - up is down, black is white, good is bad - you know the routine.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, F&L.

    Keep repeating - up is down, black is white, good is bad - you know the routine.

    "Wages are slavery!" "Tax the rich!" I covered these idiots for 25 years full time professionally. Not one of the slogans and claims has changed since I began my career at 19.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    yep that exactly what the post I qouted was, 100% irony
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good morning, F&L.

    Keep repeating - up is down, black is white, good is bad - you know the routine.
    Makes me wonder how they never stumbled on to "poor is rich". When you're repeating inane things, seems like you'd sooner or later trip yourself up on something that would make you sit down and shut up.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I posted this on another thread and nobody disputed it:

    The legalization of gay marriage gave homosexual people the right to marry each other over the objections of both the religious, and non-religious, who believe that marriage should remain as it has throughout human history, as the joining of one man, to one woman. Having that right to marry, should not be a licence to force the participation of those who in doing so, would violate the tenets of their religion. In other words, the obtaining of a right by one group, shouldn't result in the sacrificing of a right by another group.

    But there's more...

    A gay couple having a formal ceremony with food, a photographer, a cake, music, etc... is a 100% optional activity and totally unnecessary to exercise their right to become a legally married gay couple. How can anyone justify that a person be legally compelled to defy their religious beliefs and participate in an event/ceremony that has no effect what so ever on the rights of gay people to wed?

    It's clear that choosing not to cater to a gay wedding based on religious grounds, is not discrimination against gay people, but discrimination against a ceremony that has been deemed sacrilegious for thousands of years. Laws have been passed so that nobodys religious rights can infringe on a homosexual's right to engage in a same-sex marriage, so why shouldn't there be laws passed that assure that a homosexuals rights to wed, doesn't infringe on anyones religious rights and beliefs?

    Isn't that not only fair, but the way it should be?
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Makes me wonder how they never stumbled on to "poor is rich". When you're repeating inane things, seems like you'd sooner or later trip yourself up on something that would make you sit down and shut up.

    The word "poverty" is to the socialist what "sin" is to the Puritan, a bludgeon to be wielded and exploited at every opportunity. Conferences and "think tanks' are staged at routine intervals and always after an electoral defeat, to remind us all that socialism really does have a heart and they "care". The poverty line has been rising in this country for three decades, while we have issues, "poverty" is mostly mental illness and substance related.

    How they define "poverty" alters with the situation, do not ever try to pin them down, if you do not have a television news camera stuck in their gaping maws they go ape **** and scream "fascist".

    Oh, but they do. The slogans we hear are the ones that worked! There have been some classic blunders by these fools in Canada, promising to nationalize "all no farm land" was very clever. But we live in an age of the Gruber, the "low information voter" where a three word slogan replaces dialogue, today a "war is peace" is likely to work.

    Anyone interested in politics and "bending the message" needs so see a film called "Land of the Blind" with Donald Sutherland and Ralph Fiennes. "Nothing is better than steak." comes to mean "nothing" is preferable to eat over steak.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    yep that exactly what the post I qouted was, 100% irony
    Good that you recognize it

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    The cake and flowers aren't about the right to marriage, they're about the right to goods and services available to the public.
    Said right does not exist

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