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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    If you can't discriminate, you don't have liberty
    If you are allowed to discriminate than you limit liberty and take liberty from others.

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    It may just be me, but I don't count pizza at a wedding as a basic service
    But it is not up to you to decide if someone wants to eat pizza at a wedding. For all we know the caterer got ill and they need something to feed hungry family members who came from far to attend their wedding.

    Food, restaurant are basic service, the law clearly says so. Restaurants (and a pizza place is a restaurant) is banned from discrimination.

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    And since when does god say "thou shalt not sell pizza to gays"? Nice try but you can obey god and still follow the law and not be a force of evil (which is discrimination IMHO, an act of evil and not of love, an act of disrespect and sinning rather than one of respect and wanting not to sin).
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    If you are allowed to discriminate than you limit liberty and take liberty from others.



    But it is not up to you to decide if someone wants to eat pizza at a wedding. For all we know the caterer got ill and they need something to feed hungry family members who came from far to attend their wedding.

    Food, restaurant are basic service, the law clearly says so. Restaurants (and a pizza place is a restaurant) is banned from discrimination.



    And since when does god say "thou shalt not sell pizza to gays"? Nice try but you can obey god and still follow the law and not be a force of evil (which is discrimination IMHO, an act of evil and not of love, an act of disrespect and sinning rather than one of respect and wanting not to sin).
    Jesus was against gay marriage. Why do so many people not know this? Do they read the Bible or just browse through it, see just one verse, "do not judge" and then never read anything else.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Asa I said, way over your head.
    Straw man exposed. Nuff said

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by JFish123 View Post
    Jesus was against gay marriage. Why do so many people not know this? Do they read the Bible or just browse through it, see just one verse, "do not judge" and then never read anything else.
    Really? Please quote where he states that he is against gay marriage?

    It is well known that the bible is anti-gay, but I would think that would be the duty of god, not of men to judge.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Apparently they have no problem with homosexuals since they have stated that if they come through the door wanting a pizza then they will sell them one with absolutely no problem in doing so. They just wouldn't cater a gay wedding. Its gay weddings that they are against. Not gays themselves.

    And there's a difference between statistics and polls. Polls might use statistics, but statistics do not use polls. Polls are mainly about peoples opinions. Statistics rely more on math and facts.
    this simply doesn't past the test of honesty (on them not you)
    thier problem is in fact with gays, yes they will serve them in some ways but they in fact view gays as lessers and not equal to themselves

    Like i keep repeating the perfect example I came across this would be like serving blacks on in the ally and back door and not allowing them in the front or in the dining room, or hiring women to only be secretaries and cleaning ladies but not allowing them to be bosses.

    would we then say they don't have a problem with blacks because they do serve them, just not with white or in the dining room, r they don't have a problem with women, they do hire them just not as bosses.

    I know i would never say that because it simply not true, its a shame that nobody honest, educated and objective would buy
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Straw man exposed. Nuff said
    The only thing you exposed is your affinity for discrimination and bigotry.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Could you explain how has your life, our faith or your beliefs have been affected by this ramming down your throat?
    My life has been impacted by constantly having to listen to the whining of the activists that moan that they want someone who doesn't want to provide a service that can easily be found elsewhere to be forced to provide it for them. Because it's not that they can't get the service provided, they want to force the person turning them down to suffer for their beliefs...It's childish, and selfish....

    As far as "our faith", I'm not sure how "YOUR" faith is impacted, but this is, in general going after faith that decries homosexuality through scripture in the sense that government has gone after, in court faith based institutions for other areas, and precedents are just that...It's a matter of time before we have to hear of an LGBT couple suing the Church, or Temple for refusing to preform their service.

    Finally as for "my beliefs''... I have repeated myself more than I care to do in these threads. If you don't know by now how I stand on gay couples getting married, or their relationships in real life, then you just haven't been paying attention, or reading....But, I'll say it one last time, and read it good this time k?

    I don't care if gay people get married, adopt children, or live together what ever... I've known some incredible people over my lifetime that happened to be gay, and I've known some real ****heads that were straight, so in the end live and let live. Would that the militants today had the same view on living and let living eh? But they don't, so even though I don't have any personal problem with gay people living their lives, they have a problem with me defending others rights to do business with whom they choose....

    So, are we clear now?
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    They got some bad press and a few bad yelp reviews. Is that bullying nowadays? One whacko is going to jail for threatening to burn down the place. That is about as close to bullying as you can get. Otherwise, both support and opposition are free market responses. There is no state involvement to bully people in this case.
    A few??? This shop went from 4 total Yelp reviews logged in the days before, to over 1200 the day after...Yes, that's bullying....The elementary school teacher that threatened to burn down his shop SHOULD go to jail, and loose his job teaching young kids. Period. And you analysis that there is "no state involvement in bullying people" is correct. It's the opposite...This was a coordinated, ginned up controversy in order for the militants to bully the state into changing the wording of a law that mirrors the Federal law they agreed with when Clinton signed it...It's got all the alarm bells of political hypocrisy, faux outrage, and vitriolic attack. So, in the end you have that part exactly backwards 180 degrees.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    The only thing you exposed is your affinity for discrimination and bigotry.
    And you've exposed your inability to grasp a simple concept

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    1.)My life has been impacted by constantly having to listen to the whining of the activists that moan that they want someone who doesn't want to provide a service that can easily be found elsewhere to be forced to provide it for them. Because it's not that they can't get the service provided, they want to force the person turning them down to suffer for their beliefs...It's childish, and selfish....

    2.)As far as "our faith", I'm not sure how "YOUR" faith is impacted, but this is, in general going after faith that decries homosexuality through scripture in the sense that government has gone after, in court faith based institutions for other areas, and precedents are just that...

    3.)It's a matter of time before we have to hear of an LGBT couple suing the Church, or Temple for refusing to preform their service.

    Finally as for "my beliefs''... I have repeated myself more than I care to do in these threads. If you don't know by now how I stand on gay couples getting married, or their relationships in real life, then you just haven't been paying attention, or reading....But, I'll say it one last time, and read it good this time k?

    I don't care if gay people get married, adopt children, or live together what ever... I've known some incredible people over my lifetime that happened to be gay, and I've known some real ****heads that were straight, so in the end live and let live.

    5.) Would that the militants today had the same view on living and let living eh?

    6.) But they don't, so even though I don't have any personal problem with gay people living their lives, they have a problem with me defending others rights to do business with whom they choose....

    So, are we clear now?
    1.) YEAH! damn those people wanting equal rights and not wanting people to break the law and or violate the rights of others!!! Iwish blacks and woman would have kept thier mouths shut too and not fought for equal rights and just let people mistreat them, break the law and or violate thier rights . . . wow
    sorry there is no force from them nor is wanting equal rights, childish or selfish LMAO
    very simple solution, dont break the law or violate peoples rights

    2.) nobody is going after "faith" thats a boat that sinks everytime and is never taken seriously by anybody honest educated and objective

    3.) probably, im sure there will be some loons that try and they will fail just like . . wait for it . . wait for it . . .. . the STRAIGHTS and INTERRACIAL couples and many other that have tri. The "church" discriminates everyday to straight couples right now and they can because they are protected by the constitution. this isnt changing and is in no danger for the minority loons out thier, if they excist that want to try it.

    4.) good then let people continue thier fight for right and wrong and stop crying about it and making up hyperbolic crap that is only worthy of laughter lol

    5.) you keep saying live and let live and its a crock, where else would you apply this logic? what other crimes and violations of rights.
    if your wife, daughter, mother were raped would you just say live and let live? what if they were just sexually harrassed etc etc. give me the list please. Arson? assault? murder? destruction of property? Theft? etc Theres nothign wrong with people fighting for equal rights and reporting criminals when they come across them lol


    that right isnt in danger so you dont have to worry, thats another fantasy

    6.) yes its clear that you say you support equal rights but you simply dont want people fighting for them, they should just sit back and wait to see if it just happen, take the abuse and let criminals be criminals. Got it.
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