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Thread: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    But this is not really about the caterer or florist, because today it is them and tomorrow it is the EMT, the doctor or pharmacist, the fire fighter. You get my point. I have asked so many times before in threads with this topic and have yet to find one intelligent reply, where does one draw the line and why. Are the people in those lines of work not as worthy of their faith as a baker?
    Just so we understand your question, what kind of services would a homosexual couple require at their wedding that they would need to contract with an EMT, doctor, pharmacist or firefighter ahead of time?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    But there is even less fairness in racism, sexism and discrimination due to sexual preference.
    Practiced by citizens, there is no unfairness in any of that. Those are acts of liberty

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Delivery people don't stick around normally, despite what you may see on TV. Are the delivery people going to take the pizza back if the party is for an anniversary party of a same sex couple.
    That seems to be a non-issue since I've never had a delivery person ask me why I ordered pizza

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Practiced by citizens, there is no unfairness in any of that. Those are acts of liberty
    Well that may be your opinion, I think is is extremely unfair and unacceptable. And they are not acts of liberty but acts of denying liberty, fairness and equality.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Well that may be your opinion, I think is is extremely unfair and unacceptable. And they are not acts of liberty but acts of denying liberty, fairness and equality.
    Sorry, but you are confusing liberty and security. There's nothing unfair about denyig someone your services because no one has a right to those services. It's no more unfair than the homosexual who refuses to patronize a business that won't provide services to homosexual weddings

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Sorry, but you are confusing liberty and security. There's nothing unfair about denyig someone your services because no one has a right to those services. It's no more unfair than the homosexual who refuses to patronize a business that won't provide services to homosexual weddings
    No, you are confusing liberty and being discriminating asswipes.

    There is something hugely unfair about denying someone basic service from customers because the owner of that business is a discriminating extremist. The law and basic decency, something those businesses seem to forget in their fight for "freedom" and their religious purity (even when it goes against the nature of their faith, I am pretty damned sure Jesus would frown upon serving someone food because that person happened to be gay) that they seem to forget that they are not above the law.

    Even their precious bible says:

    Romans 13:1-7: “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

    And even their arrogance about serving others is not really approved by the bible either:

    Peter 4:10 says "As each has received a gift, use it to serve one another, as good stewards of God's varied grace"


    Judging is wrong, I doubt the bible supports judging others and denying them service.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Just so we understand your question, what kind of services would a homosexual couple require at their wedding that they would need to contract with an EMT, doctor, pharmacist or firefighter ahead of time?
    I do not think you could as it is clearly way over your head.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    No, you are confusing liberty and being discriminating asswipes.
    If you can't discriminate, you don't have liberty

    There is something hugely unfair about denying someone basic service from customers because the owner of that business is a discriminating extremist. The law and basic decency, something those businesses seem to forget in their fight for "freedom" and their religious purity (even when it goes against the nature of their faith, I am pretty damned sure Jesus would frown upon serving someone food because that person happened to be gay) that they seem to forget that they are not above the law.
    It may just be me, but I don't count pizza at a wedding as a basic service

    Even their precious bible says:

    Romans 13:1-7: “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

    And even their arrogance about serving others is not really approved by the bible either:

    Peter 4:10 says "As each has received a gift, use it to serve one another, as good stewards of God's varied grace"


    Judging is wrong, I doubt the bible supports judging others and denying them service.
    Acts 5:28-29 "...“We gave you strict orders not to continue teaching in this name, and yet, you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and intend to bring this man’s blood upon us.” But Peter and the apostles answered, “We must obey God rather than men.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    I do not think you could as it is clearly way over your head.
    No, it didn't go over my head. I fully recognized the straw man and posed the question that exposes it for being such.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    No, it didn't go over my head. I fully recognized the straw man and posed the question that exposes it for being such.
    Asa I said, way over your head.

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