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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Now you're just looking silly....You've already lost that portion of the argument, now you are just trying to desperately deflect, and change the goalposts....Move on.
    You are the one who seems to believe only those in certain religions get protections for those beliefs.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by JFish123 View Post
    If gay people wants to refuse to put ‘hateful’ messages on something, they should have that right.
    If Muslims want to refuse putting cartoons of Muhammad on a poster, they should have that right.
    If black Americans want to refuse putting images of the KKK on materials, they should have the right to do that.
    If Christians who disagree with gay marriage don’t want to endorse messages that support it, they should have that right.
    There is a difference though between a message on a cake saying "support same sex marriage" and just a wedding cake. A wedding cake by itself does not make any claim of support for any cause.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The pizza place far beat out cancer patients and Boston Marathon bombing victims. Yay religion!
    Pretty awesome...right?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    She didn't even have to go to another pharmacy. The doctor called it in to another pharmacy after the WalMart guy said no.

    In other words, BFD.
    No doubt in my mind.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    There is a difference though between a message on a cake saying "support same sex marriage" and just a wedding cake. A wedding cake by itself does not make any claim of support for any cause.
    Oh, but the absense of one makes for the claim of bigotry? Can't have it both ways.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, but the absense of one makes for the claim of bigotry? Can't have it both ways.
    Not "absence", refusal of one. There is a difference.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Not "absence", refusal of one. There is a difference.
    If someone shows up at a wedding with a cake it's quite likely, by their presence alone, that they support the wedding.

    Of course they may also arrive with a sign that says the law has forced them to deliver a cake, or pizza, but is against the principles in which they believe, that they believe marriage should remain between a man and a woman.. Perhaps this would satisfy everyone. That way free speech and Gay rights are both being protected.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If someone shows up at a wedding with a cake it's quite likely, by their presence alone, that they support the wedding.

    Of course they may also arrive with a sign that says the law has forced them to deliver a cake, or pizza, but is against the principles in which they believe, that they believe marriage should remain between a man and a woman.. Perhaps this would satisfy everyone. That way free speech and Gay rights are both being protected.
    That would be fine with me to a point. I'd expect them to inform the person/people of their feelings at the beginning of the ordering , otherwise it is quite petty since it assumes the couple wouldn't have simply rejected their wishes and went somewhere else. Many probably would respect the wishes of those establishments. Heck the masterpiece cake place in Colorado said he turned away lots of customers for being gay and requesting a cake connected to marriage.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    That would be fine with me to a point. I'd expect them to inform the person/people of their feelings at the beginning of the ordering , otherwise it is quite petty since it assumes the couple wouldn't have simply rejected their wishes and went somewhere else. Many probably would respect the wishes of those establishments. Heck the masterpiece cake place in Colorado said he turned away lots of customers for being gay and requesting a cake connected to marriage.
    What's 'petty' is insisting someone deliver a pizza to a wedding knowing that goes against their beliefs. Then, to further this pettiness, they shut down businesses, send hate mail and death threats, and rubbish their previously good name around the country. And to increase the idiocy in this spirit of hyper-pettiness, this entire brouhaha was based on a hypothetical question!

    At one time people would simply go to another bakery or wedding photographer, perhaps one that's been recommended to them by friends, but now one groups rights are considered to be superior to those of another. And because none of this Gay wedding controversy passes the smell test on its own merits comparisons are being made between Blacks, the KKK, and so on. Small minded liberals are all about the little picture.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed[W:1581]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What's 'petty' is insisting someone deliver a pizza to a wedding knowing that goes against their beliefs. Then, to further this pettiness, they shut down businesses, send hate mail and death threats, and rubbish their previously good name around the country. And to increase the idiocy in this spirit of hyper-pettiness, this entire brouhaha was based on a hypothetical question!

    At one time people would simply go to another bakery or wedding photographer, perhaps one that's been recommended to them by friends, but now one groups rights are considered to be superior to those of another. And because none of this Gay wedding controversy passes the smell test on its own merits comparisons are being made between Blacks, the KKK, and so on. Small minded liberals are all about the little picture.
    First of all, they said they wouldn't provide pizza to someone who came into their pizzeria, no mention of them actually having to deliver the pizza.

    Second, they'd be more likely to provide pizza for a gay orgy delivering it to someone's house. How is that different? In fact how is it different providing for a same sex date than their wedding?

    Also, it isn't like gays or gay supporters as a whole all were being hateful or threatened people. I don't blame all Christians for WBC or other extreme religious nut jobs. It is completely wrong and unfair to blame gays or gay rights supporters for what a very few idiots and nut jobs did. Plus, they reopened less than a week later with almost a million dollars. Guess that much money made them feel real secure.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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