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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So nine idiots couldn't bring themselves to admit the law is involuntary servitude. So what?
    SCOTUS has ruled numerous times to uphold the Constitutionality of the Civil Rights Acts.

    They are the ones this country decided - long, long, ago, who determine the Constitutionality of laws when they are challenged in court.

    Why do you hate the way our Republic is set up?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    SCOTUS has ruled numerous times to uphold the Constitutionality of the Civil Rights Acts.

    They are the ones this country decided - long, long, ago, who determine the Constitutionality of laws when they are challenged in court.

    Why do you hate the way our Republic is set up?
    Because it has allowed the government to gift itself power that was never granted to it when its ruling document was created.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    lol.

    And now we go back to a con kookily having an issue with the centuries old doctrine of Judicial Review.



    What's next?

    ˇViva la Revolución?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    lol.

    And now we go back to a con kookily having an issue with the centuries old doctrine of Judicial Review.



    What's next?



    ˇViva la Revolución?
    Do you like courts having no checks placed on them? I don't.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Yup Rolling Stone is horrible. But it is also terribly unfortunate that so many other causes on Gofundme have received nowhere near the support the pizza place did. Why are cancer patients and Boston Marathon victims less worthy of financial support than the pizza place?
    Why d you think they were less worthy? How much did you donate to these causes?

    Perhaps atheists and others don't realize how much they owe to Christian charity.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Because human sacrifice is a religious belief that has existed and could exist as a part of religion. It is extreme, but still an example of where the Constitution limits people's religion. Another would be in the consequences of actions (which I did mention and you ignored) for sins/wrongdoing in many religions, which include killing people for various offenses. And yes, those are in the Bible.

    Actually, you are wrong, we do restrict people in the "free exercise" of some beliefs. If someone feels that the Bible compels them to kill homosexuals or witches (and they view practicing Wiccans or palm readers as witches) or that the Koran compels them to beat their disobedient wives or kill their promiscuous daughters or sisters, they are prevented from doing those things by our laws that are based on religious beliefs.

    And here are the verses that support those people who might believe those things:

    Exodus 22:18 - Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.
    Leviticus 20:13 - If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    Heck, apparently President Obama's own grandmother believes that beating disobedient wives is okay. And this, although a relatively minor belief at least here in the US, is still a belief in many different religions, including some fundamentalist Christian sects.

    My respond to the so called "Wife Beating is allowed at anytime" lie against Islam:

    And while there are plenty of honor killings outside of Islam, and they are denounced by many Muslims, especially since they are not reportedly condone by the Koran, they are still seen by too many Muslims as a religious necessity to maintain family honor.
    Your opening proposition that Christians committing 'human sacrifice' is IMHO now thoroughly debunked...The only way you can make your point seems to be in that there may or may not be some fringe groups somewhere, that at some point in history have been tied in some way to human sacrifice in NO WAY means that the State keeping its nose out of religion constitutionally is up for interpretation. Face it, you used a ridiculous, hyperbolic example, and it should draw nothing but dismissal and laughter....

    This pizza joint, who doesn't do catering in the first place, and was set up to answer a stupid question, by a stupid reporter should indeed be protected in answering the way that they did, and you don't have to like it...But to compare protecting them to somehow condoning some centuries past practice by some pagan trash religion in no way responds to my question, so just admit it...You can't...Islam is the closest thing to any mainstream religion that today kills as a result of what their holy book tells them to do, and as such I think diminishes their standing as a religion.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Paperview View Post
    SCOTUS has ruled numerous times to uphold the Constitutionality of the Civil Rights Acts.

    They are the ones this country decided - long, long, ago, who determine the Constitutionality of laws when they are challenged in court.

    Why do you hate the way our Republic is set up?
    SCOTUS is not a legislative body....At least not how it was set up.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Do you like courts having no checks placed on them? I don't.
    They do have checks. Have the legislature write Constitutionally sound laws. Get up movement to amend the Constitution.

    Deal with the fact we've had Judicial Review since even before our Founding.

    Who else do you presume is the arbiter of the Constitutionality of laws?

    <I should remember who I'm talking to when I ask this question...>

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    SCOTUS is not a legislative body....At least not how it was set up.
    No, they are the Judicial branch.

    They decide the Constitutionality of laws, and rule on cases and controversies brought to them through the Court system.

    Too bad you don't like it.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    God hates cakes.

    The moral of the story is you can't have your gay and eat it too.
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