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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    What tolerance are you suggesting?

    Are you suggesting peopled should let others illegally discriminate, break the law and or violate the rights of others ?

    what other things would you suggest this for?
    not hiring or promoting women simply because they are women?
    vandalism?
    assault?
    rape?
    theft?

    should people that believe in equal rights and civility tolerate those things too?
    There was nothing illegal done or suggested by the pizza shop owners

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Completely off topic but please - stop calling or labeling the bible a "bronze age book" as none of it was composed during that period (c. 3000 - 1200 BCE) and much of it was written down after the Iron Age (c. 1200 - 550 BCE)
    That is when theists like to believe it was written however..."moses" was thought to begin writing genesis around 1400 BC. Actual scholars believe it was begun at the very end or after iron age, but i use "bronze age" to throw it in their face, since that is what they believe

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Should businesses be able to refuse Christians?
    Touché.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Never said otherwise. But for the people involved, religion is a factor. Whether you want to admit it or not religion does have value. Maybe not to you. But it does to others.
    if you want to focus only on the people involved, religion has done far more harm than good. Gay rights is only one clear example of that

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    If they want to yes.
    ??????????!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    If they want to yes.
    I shouldn't have picked a safe majority. The majority is always safe. What about Jews? Muslims?

    Say there's a small town with one or two convenience stores. Both have a no Jew or Muslim policy. Should the few Jews and Muslims in the town be forced to move in order to receive service?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    if you want to focus only on the people involved, religion has done far more harm than good. Gay rights is only one clear example of that
    You're the one that asked about the value of religion...and you wanted only one example. I've provided that.

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    well name one thing of value religion contributes in the 21st century

    and i'm talking the bronze age book of fables known as the bible - what these small town yokels cling to - not pantheism, deism, jainism or hell, even nihilism might have more utility
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Coertion(sic)?? Listen, if you make **** pizza I'm not going to eat at your pizzeria. And I'm going to tell my friends your pizza is ****. They and I will eat elsewhere. That's not coercion. That's called capitalism.

    Similarly, if your pizzeria hates the gays, I wont eat there. I'll tell my friends too, and they wont eat there. The market speaks: discrimination against homosexuals is not a good business decision.
    A correction to my previous post. The restaurant owner said they would not cater a gay wedding. Apparently there was no request to do such a thing - just a reporter asking if they would. So there was no discrimination because no action was taken.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Coertion(sic)?? Listen, if you make **** pizza I'm not going to eat at your pizzeria. And I'm going to tell my friends your pizza is ****. They and I will eat elsewhere. That's not coercion. That's called capitalism.

    Similarly, if your pizzeria hates the gays, I wont eat there. I'll tell my friends too, and they wont eat there. The market speaks: discrimination against homosexuals is not a good business decision.
    There you go. You admit you would criticize a pizza that you haven't tasted yourself. That is what we're seeing today in the effort to harm people who hold a perspective that goes against the homosexual agenda. Odd isn't it. The pizza owner would make no effort to prevent two homosexuals from getting married, but would not participate in the event. The response in that town is to try to harm the owner and shut his business down? Who are the real bigots?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Those two polls are about the same exact subject. We're discussing a completely different subject here. As I said, I support SSM. I have proved that over the years. But I also support the right of a business to discriminate due to their right to association. IE: Right to Marriage and Right to freedom of association. Two different subjects. Neither of which you will find a poll comparing the two to each other.
    Um...my point was that statistically, if they oppose SSM, they are likely to oppose gay rights across the board. Sodomy laws and SSM are not the same subject. Sending the gestapo to barge into bedrooms and make arrests for consensual sex is not at all the same level of intolerance as opposing marriage rights.

    The reason most oppose both or neither is most either hate homosexuals or have no problem with it. Guess which the pizza owners fall into?

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