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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    SCOTUS disagrees.
    SCOTUS also disagreed with those who helped free slaves. What's your point?
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    So because homosexual rights were once trampled on it is perfectly OK to trample on the previous tramplers Rights? Now that their Rights are no longer being trampled on why are they thinking that they are morally superior and that they deserve enough special treatment to make people do something that they think is morally wrong? One would think that having ones Rights trampled on would make one more aware of what its like to have those Rights trampled on. But apparently they prefer angry emotionalism.
    I am sorry, but the rights of whom are being trampled on when a baker has to make a wedding cake? Nobody's rights, that is who.

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    The refuse to do the job because they see SSM as sinful yes. Should a Jew not object to being forced to make a Nazi swastika celebrating Hitler's B-day?
    Well, then they should not be bakers now should't they, or not sell any wedding cakes as all. That is the right they have, but if someone orders from you a stock wedding cake (that you do not specifically have to design for them with speciality items added) then you do not have the right to refuse them that.

    And Jewish bakers do not really have a cake in their stock of cakes people can order with swastika's on there. That is called creative freedom, they are being asked to do something they never sell (a swastika cake) and thus that Jewish baker has the right to not make that cake.

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    But you certainly do care what YOU think is wrong or right huh? You certainly do care enough to try and force them do to what YOU think is right and to get them punished for things that YOU think is wrong. That my dear chap is called hypocrisy.
    What I think is wrong or right? I am sorry, but we are talking about a bakery which sells wedding cakes, period. If they want to break they law then they have to pay for that.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Wrong again. They are against Gay marriage. In fact it was Bill Clinton who signed the Defense of Marriage Act. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...4hr3396enr.pdf

    You should familiarize yourself with the facts before entering the debate.
    You should familiarize yourself with the law. It is discrimination based on sexual orientation.
    Our decisions
    have declined to distinguish between status and
    conduct in this context. See Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U. S.
    558, 575 (2003) (“When homosexual conduct is made
    criminal by the law of the State, that declaration in and of
    itself is an invitation to subject homosexual persons to
    discrimination.” (emphasis added)); id., at 583 (O’Connor,
    J., concurring in judgment) (“While it is true that the law
    applies only to conduct, the conduct targeted by this law is
    conduct that is closely correlated with being homosexual.
    Under such circumstances, [the] law is targeted at more
    than conduct. It is instead directed toward gay persons as
    a class.
    ”); cf. Bray v. Alexandria Women’s Health Clinic,
    506 U. S. 263, 270 (1993) (“A tax on wearing yarmulkes is
    a tax on Jews.”). See also Brief for Lambda Legal Defense
    and Education Fund, Inc., et al. as Amici Curiae 7–20.
    http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/09pdf/08-1371.pdf
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Wrong again. Murder laws are about killing for no valid reason. Self defense laws are about killing for valid reasons. Again, Try again.
    What are you talking about I never made that comment. Me thinks you misquoted totally and completely.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    1: No your answer was towards something that I never stated. That of them not discriminating at all. However thanks for affirming that your previous answer also applies to what I had to spell out for you.
    No, my answer was to your question
    2: Nope they didn't. Or do you think that they would make a cake for two male heterosexuals getting married? If they would then yes they are discriminating based on sexual orientation. If they would not then no, they are not.
    Doesn't make a difference. It is considered discrimination based on sexual orientation

    Wrong again. Murder laws are about killing for no valid reason. Self defense laws are about killing for valid reasons. Again, Try again.
    Murder laws explicitly define legal killings thereby discriminating between legal killings and illegal ones.

    Try again
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    SCOTUS also disagreed with those who helped free slaves. What's your point?
    The point is that as long as the courts allowed people to do something, people had the right to do it.

    Your definition of rights is inaccurate.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    SCOTUS also disagreed with those who helped free slaves. What's your point?
    Hence the 14th.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    What are you talking about I never made that comment. Me thinks you misquoted totally and completely.
    Yes I did. I apologize. And I fixed it.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Doesn't make a difference. It is considered discrimination based on sexual orientation
    Wow, I cannot believe that you just said that. How in the world is refusing to make a wedding cake for BOTH heterosexual males AND homosexual males considered sexual orientation discrimination?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Murder laws explicitly define legal killings thereby discriminating between legal killings and illegal ones.

    Try again
    No, murder laws explicitly define murders. Not legal killings.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The point is that as long as the courts allowed people to do something, people had the right to do it.

    Your definition of rights is inaccurate.
    Your concept of what Rights are is not only inaccurate but so far off base that even the word "wrong" does not do justice to how wrong you are.
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