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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Maybe those calling for tolerance should be more tolerant themselves of others' viewpoints.
    Tolerance does not require one to support a bigot's business.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Hicup is pretty notorious for anti gay posts such as comparing homosexuality to pedophilia, think i'll pass. It doesn't matter anyway. I've seen quite enough this week from "libertarians" especially who claim to support gay rights but also support this license to discriminate filth
    Yes he is. And I've debated against him for years. Long LONG before this whole Indiana thing ever came up.

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Guess what, that doesn't make you any better than the pizza owners, not if you can't even simply say "they're wrong"
    I've said it several ways already. Just in this thread. For example: I have already stated that I would not give them my business. I'd fight for their Rights. But not give them my business. If that doesn't show that I think their wrong to then I don't know what does.....Or perhaps you just want me to say those exact words? Well...here ya go.....The business owners of that Pizzaria is wrong to not provide their services to gay weddings.

    Happy?

    Still doesn't change the fact that I believe that they still have a Right to not provide their services.

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Oh ok so when gallup finds that 45% oppose SSM and 35% want gay sex illegal, there is no correlation between the two positions
    Those two polls are about the same exact subject. We're discussing a completely different subject here. As I said, I support SSM. I have proved that over the years. But I also support the right of a business to discriminate due to their right to association. IE: Right to Marriage and Right to freedom of association. Two different subjects. Neither of which you will find a poll comparing the two to each other.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Weddings have been performed in places like Walmart. A pizza wedding would be a step up from that.
    First meth labs, now weddings.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Really? Not your place to judge and you don't judge at all? Then what the hell is the following.....







    You've done nothing BUT judge this entire thread.
    You asked for it, and you got it.

    Still whining, eh?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    all of that can be accomplished without religion
    Never said otherwise. But for the people involved, religion is a factor. Whether you want to admit it or not religion does have value. Maybe not to you. But it does to others.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    that isn't how tolerance works or did you not know that
    these people that spout tolerance don't even know the definition of tolerance.

    they have distorted the definition into something else.


    I like what Robert Green Ingersoll had to say about tolerance: "Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself."

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    New York City has lots of pizzerias, I've never heard of any of them refusing to cater gay weddings. Does that surprise anyone?
    He was basing his comments in that particular post that I responded to on the size of the town. I was giving him an analogy to show that he would be saying the exact same things that he's been saying in this thread to a pizzeria that was in a much larger environment.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    I'm done tolerating bigots who use religion as a shield to justify their bigotry. Being gay doesn't even break one of the Ten Commandments, yet it's magically the #1 concern for business owners looking to refuse service.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    You're assuming that the kid would have a reason to be scared. Can you provide proof that even these people in the Pizzaria would harm or threaten that gay kid in that town?
    It's a small midwest town and my own experiences with small midwest towns leaves me to believe that is the likelihood. Can you prove that's not the case? No, of course, since neither know anyone there much less a gay kid to ask

    Although i'm sure you would dismiss it as cowardly paranoia anyway

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Coertion(sic)?? Listen, if you make **** pizza I'm not going to eat at your pizzeria. And I'm going to tell my friends your pizza is ****. They and I will eat elsewhere. That's not coercion. That's called capitalism.

    Similarly, if your pizzeria hates the gays, I wont eat there. I'll tell my friends too, and they wont eat there. The market speaks: discrimination against homosexuals is not a good business decision.
    I don't believe I mentioned discrimination against gays. I don't care whether the place serves gays or not. It's their problem, as is the quality of the pizza or anything else they might care to produce. I just mentioned that under threat of such a boycott, pizza served to those who initiate such actions might leave something to be desired. From what I've gathered here, this place doesn't do catering. Also, from the videos I've seen, it appears that their religious convictions are prominently portrayed in their restaurant. It looks and sounds like a set up to me, or do you actually believe that the quality of the pizza was the reason the owners were approached?
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