I read the City Attorney's letter, and he sure as hell did back down. He would have been a fool not to. Cost the town a bundle trying to defend the indefensible in a suit in federal court, and you won't be City Attorney much longer. I've worked in city attorneys' offices, and I know very well the one in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho, has neither the time nor the budget to defend federal suits. It probably consists of about three lawyers who have their hands full with everyday legal matters. They would have had to turn this matter over to a private law firm, and that would have gotten very expensive very fast.Couer d'Alene didn't back down. The Hitching Post backed down by re-organizing as a religious organization and changed its' policy so it no longer performs non-christian marriages, which made it exempt from the anti-discrimination regulation
The fact the owners of the Hitching Post had filed the papers that made it a religious organization is irrelevant. It remained a for-profit business, and as such it remained subject to the city ordinance. It was never exempt from that ordinance, although the City Attorney unconvincingly pretended in his letter that it probably was. It is exactly because the ordinance continued to pose the threat of fines and jail time to the Knapps that the federal district court allowed both their suit and their request for a temporary restraining order to prevent the ordinance from being applied to them. If what you are claiming were true, the court would have rejected the suit and the request for a TRO as frivolous, and sanctioned the Knapps' lawyers for wasting its time by filing them.
Which is bogus of course, because as said, wedding cakes where a Roman tradition.
The wedding cake can be used as a religious instrument but historically that is what people have made it into.
Wedding cake - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Wedding cake history | Maisie Fantaisie Wedding Cakes
History of the Wedding Cake | Let Them Eat Cake!
The History of Wedding Cakes
Wedding Cakes in History | Edible Art Bakery & Dessert Cafe, Raleigh, NC
The Strange History of the Wedding Cake | Arts & Culture | Smithsonian
The 7 Stage Story Of The Wedding Cake |
Wedding Cake History | WeddingCakeCreations.com
Great Cake Places - The History of Wedding Cakes
A Historical Slice of the Wedding Cake | Curious History
And you can go on and on and on and on and on. Just because people make wedding cakes into something it is not, does not give them a religious Christian meaning and especially not something that makes them so holy that people who are not Christians or straight are not allowed to have them or some gay hating baker can deny gays a cake. Or how that same "Christian" baker should be allowed to deny jews, muslims, atheists, etc. a wedding cake because they are not part of his "illk"?.
Sorry, but the marriage is over when the priest/judge/whoever says "By the powers vested in me, you are now man and wife" (or man and man, or wife and wife). People can get married and be legally married without wedding cakes or anything that resembles that.
Wilders is a piece of gutter trash, a gutless populist who has no morality to speak of.
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It wasn't designed as an anti discrimination law in the first place as I understand it, but rather to give those citizens of faith standing in court...But the militant LGBT's, and liberal anti Christians out there seized on the opportunity to misrepresent, and stir all kinds of faux outrage to force their agenda....They succeeded, Pence caved....Continuing this narrative that it was the fault of a reporter is absurd. Did you think the law allowed no discrimination before it entered public discussion?
Yeah, that's right Hillary...What difference does it make? Well, if you want to continue to rely on a dishonest media, just remember that kind of deception works both ways....When, if ever, the media turns to promoting more of the right wing agenda, then I am sure your tune will change, and amnesia will dominate your arguments about what is going on today....Wait, what exact difference does it make if the law entered discussion because of a reporter? Does that make the law less flawed? Sour grapes all around.
In any case, y'all got your way. Pence caved so enjoy, and go straight out and force that 14 year old daughter, at the local Christian bakery to bake you a penis cake in celebration.
In any case, I am done with this deflection. You tried to bring up a comparison of a metro, city bus service denying someone access to the bus, disingenuously tying the radical gay movement to the civil rights struggle of the 60s. And now, you are desperately trying to talk about anything other than this latest attack on people that had they not been sought out to make a point would have never been in the news for anything like this anyway...
This is all so dishonest, it is sickening.