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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Imagine you were driving across the country. You look and see that your fuel light is on. You know that you have roughly 40 miles left in the tank before you get worried. There's an exit with fuel ahead, and a sign that says next gas 30 miles. But you're feeling good, and making good time. So you decide to press on.

    Thirty minutes later you take the exit into a small town. You pull up to the pump, put in your credit card... and wait.. .. Nothing. After a few tries you get frustrated. This is clearly the only gas station in town, and you don't have enough fuel to make it anywhere else. So you walk in to see the attendant, asking why the pump doesn’t' work.. "Oh, we don't serve your kind around here". What do you do? Can you honestly say that you haven't been harmed.
    When they refused to provide me with gas was there any condition of mine changed? Don't I still have the same amount of gas and won't I still find myself in the same condition if I keep driving?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Of course it is. The relevant question is whether any law could require black frat members to include whites without violating the black members' First Amendment freedom of association. Considering what the Supreme Court said in Roberts v. Jaycees, especially, I strongly doubt it could.
    Yeah, that's the private/difference. A private club or individual has a lot more leeway. Businesses which operate in the public space don't that freedom.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    When they refused to provide me with gas was there any condition of mine changed? Don't I still have the same amount of gas and won't I still find myself in the same condition if I keep driving?
    Sounds like an excellent business opportunity for an enterprising young liberal to open a gas station right near the one who doesn't serve "your kind" too. Then he can serve every (insert "kind" here) who he wants to. Win win for all.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    No. Where you choose to drink doesn't matter.

    You're a segregationist if you support the dominican bars ability to refuse service to non-dominicans.

    Look, I know this is a libertarian thing.. where one concentrates on the "principle" of a law and ignore its effects. But there are parts of this country that are VERY racist. And if businesses in these places were allowed to choose to serve whites only, then virtually all of the businesses would serve whites only. So if you support the right of businesses to serve whites only, then you must accept that this would be the result in places. There would be portions of the country denied to blacks. Now that might be an acceptable tradeoff for you, but you can't ignore it.


    You think rural indiana is a more or not racist, or racist area? how did even the notion of not wanting to cater a gay pizza wedding's response go?


    People aren't as racist as you think.


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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That was from 2006, nine years ago. It doesn't seem to have caught on in any big way.
    Yeah, "world wide" just isn't big enough. They should have gone interplanetary
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That is a public health issue...try again.
    Not all dress codes are public health issues.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Those exact bars no. Others yes. Why don't you walk in and buy a drink. If they don't serve you then you can file a lawsuit against them. They are legally required to serve you unless you're causing a disturbance or a visibly intoxicated person.
    I don't give a damn if someone serves me or not. If for some reason someone doesn't want my business, I'll give it to the guy down the street.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes. I think the law would support them as long as they are not refusing to provide the cake.
    So we've gone from "Let them eat cake" to "They must provide the cake". Can they have their cake and eat it too?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Yeah, you don't want to be a conservative and gain the ire of the LGBT mafia. **** you up bad they will.
    It's all part of their being so 'tolerant', don't you know.
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    In the U.S., violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eight people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[8][9]
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yeah, "world wide" just isn't big enough. They should have gone interplanetary
    Maybe it was 'world wide' nine years ago but interest seems to have waned. In fact it seems to have had a discouraging effect on some areas of the world. http://muslimobserver.com/homosexual...e-middle-east/

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