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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    No more so than having to cater to any protected class.

    Protected classes are wrong.


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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    It's actually pretty simple. A business has complete control to decide what services they will and what services they will not perform, they just can't discriminate as to who they will perform them for.

    If a baker doesn't want to make a type of cake, if a singer doesn't want to sing a particular song, if a photographer doesn't want to photograph a type of event, that's fine. And no one is insisting that this should be any other way. However that business can't pick and choose, providing the exact same service to one person, but refusing to provide that service to another.

    For example, a baker that makes a penis shaped cake for a bachelorette party can't refuse to make that same cake for a gay persons birthday. But if you went to a second baker and asked for penis shaped cake which they had never made for anyone, then they'd be 100% within their rights to refuse to make it.



    So, if I make a cake once, I have to make it again, period? Let's add to that, can I charge one person more, or are my prices being set as well by external forces?


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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So, if I make a cake once, I have to make it again, period? Let's add to that, can I charge one person more, or are my prices being set as well by external forces?
    You don't have to stay in business. But if you want to sell your cakes to the public, your focus should be on business and not religion. A "Christian business model" is an oxymoron.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Protected classes are wrong.
    I disagree. If certain members of the majority didn't feel the compulsion to discriminate against minorities protected classes wouldn't be necessary in the first place.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Kushinator View Post
    You don't have to stay in business. But if you want to sell your cakes to the public, your focus should be on business and not religion. A "Christian business model" is an oxymoron.

    Not seeing the relevancy to my post, sorry.


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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So, if I make a cake once, I have to make it again, period? Let's add to that, can I charge one person more, or are my prices being set as well by external forces?
    Most laws rely on a "reasonable person standard". It's a good idea to try and apply it here.

    What would a reasonable person think of a business that made one type of product, and then decided for whatever reason, not to make it again?
    What would a reasonable person think of a business that makes on type of product, except when a gay person asks for it?


    Businesses are free to base what they provide on any moral standard they wish. They don't get to make any moral judgements on the people they're providing their goods or services to.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    just to show how this is off the rails....unreal

    COLORADO COURT: Bakeries Can Refuse Anti-Gay Cakes But Must Bake Gay Wedding Cakes | The Gateway Pundit

    so I guess there can be no Muslim bakeries in CO.....

    amazing

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Not seeing the relevancy to my post, sorry.
    That might have to do with the inherent irrelevance of your comment. I was just pointing it out.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I disagree. If certain members of the majority didn't feel the compulsion to discriminate against minorities protected classes wouldn't be necessary in the first place.


    Protected classes keep a division, one that is often subconsciously or not, designed to keep that voting block/divide. Soft racism.


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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Most laws rely on a "reasonable person standard". It's a good idea to try and apply it here.

    What would a reasonable person think of a business that made one type of product, and then decided for whatever reason, not to make it again?
    What would a reasonable person think of a business that makes on type of product, except when a gay person asks for it?

    What if it's happenstance. Dude just don't like makin penis cakes.


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