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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Can you grasp the implication of that?
    Can you? One it doesn't allow you to define what others consider their own objections. Two, it prevents the government from over defining the law.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    I agree. I would be forgiven by and large by the artist community for painting a KKK member. None of us would like it, but we all understand that ya gotta pay your bills.
    To be fair, that's the same reaction the pizza makers would get from the religious community. But it's not about that. It's about personal religious objection.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And in the same way the Muslim deli isn't making ham sandwiches the Christian pizza parlor isn't catering gay weddings. The "normal subject matter" is just a dodge. It is very much on your menu to paint portraits of people wearing what they choose to wear.
    No, it's not a dodge, it's getting at what discrimination actually is. If I want hamburger from an Indian restaurant, I'm going to get turned down because they don't have hamburger. If they do have hamburger but turn me down because I'm not a Hindu, that's discrimination.

    The "Christian Pizza for Straight Weddings Only" restaurant is weaker than hell and I expect better of you than this. Simply citing the group you're discriminating against doesn't change the fact that you're discriminating.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    To be fair, that's the same reaction the pizza makers would get from the religious community. But it's not about that. It's about personal religious objection.
    Nobody likes regulations. That the objection is religious is irrelevant. If their beliefs are that big of a deal to them, then they can make the same choices we all have to make when faced with unpleasant regulations: deal with them or don't go into business.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    This coming from someone who just insinuated I was a racist.
    I already explained to you the reason I brought it up. You're demonstrating phony outrage in a weak attempt to deflect my point. That's on you, not me.

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    Let me give you a clue then... Event vs. Individual.

    Now answer your own damned question
    What question?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Can you? One it doesn't allow you to define what others consider their own objections. Two, it prevents the government from over defining the law.
    No, there is just one, chaos.
    No safe civilized society can exist in a stare of chaos.
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    Of course the third world dregs are breeding like rabbits.

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    ...these people have no responsibility for their own actions. [like third world dregs]

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Nobody likes regulations. That the objection is religious is irrelevant. If their beliefs are that big of a deal to them, then they can make the same choices we all have to make when faced with unpleasant regulations: deal with them or don't go into business.
    That's just it, it's NOT irrelevant, it's their right. A constitutional right that trumps regulation.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    No, there is just one, chaos.
    No safe civilized society can exist in a stare of chaos.
    Chaos in this case meaning, "I don't have the power to define and control what others object to".

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    That's just it, it's NOT irrelevant, it's their right. A constitutional right that trumps regulation.
    Demonstrably incorrect in many states (and soon to be the entirety of the United States). And when that's the case they can choose to serve the customers or not do business.

    Alright, off to Easter dinner. Later.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    No, being so utterly stupid is not a sin, just most unfortunate. Maybe we can hope that they could learn from all this, though I confess I have my doubts.
    As you said that they lack the intelligence to know that it is "unfortunate" to be honest, how do you expect them to learn? You can't spout an ad hom insult about their innate inability to know that being honest is unwise, and then sneer they could learn from this.

    Or might your hate of Christians gotten the best of your rational faculties?

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