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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    I have the individual right to discriminate against other human beings while receiving help from the government in the form of tax cuts, loans, etc.. Is that ok? Jesus.
    Of course it isn't right... Gay marriage is an event/ceremony, not an individual.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I agree... Now if the painting of that portrait was commissioned by the "Gay Marriage History Museum" to be placed upon their walls in a public ceremony, then an artist who is a devout Muslim, Christian, or Jew, should be able to refuse to paint it on religious grounds.

    Can you see the difference between discriminating against a person, and discriminating against an event? Only someone who has abandoned right and wrong to further their political agenda, wouldn't be able to see that.
    I would be happy to have my painting hang in the Gay Marriage History Museum. I wouldn't be so happy to have my portrait hanging in the Ku Klux Klan hall of fame, but such is the way of things.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    So, it's ok for businesses receiving support from the government to discriminate under your view? LOL.
    Again, the federal government has taken so much power that ALL businesses are in some way "receiving support". So yes.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    You are if you're catering the event. How is that not participating?
    If you thinking of that as "participating," that's on you. I would think of it as "offering the same service I offer to the rest of my customers."

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

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    Not for the thumpers.


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    And it goes down every day for the same people.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    No one said it is rocket science, but food preparation is just that food preparation.
    What degree of separation must exist in your opinion to render an activity non-participation? Does a wedding dress maker participate in a lesbian wedding? How about a miner in a shooting? The ore was turned into steel that was used to make a gun.
    Once again, that bit of abstraction is not necessary. This was specifically about catering a gay wedding. Despite the rarity of there being a pizza catered wedding.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    If you thinking of that as "participating," that's on you. I would think of it as "offering the same service I offer to the rest of my customers."
    And in this case catering a gay wedding is not something the business offers to the rest of their customers.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Once again, that bit of abstraction is not necessary. This was specifically about catering a gay wedding. Despite the rarity of there being a pizza catered wedding.
    We are trying to establish what participation is, as it is the participation that is being objected to.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

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    I don't care if you're so atheist, you make Richard Dawkins looks like a raving Christian fundamentalist by comparison. The issue that blew this up was Christians wanting to discriminate against gays based on their religion.
    Really? When did this happen? All I have heard of was a Christian baker not wanting to bake a wedding cake for a gay marriage ceremony, because same-sex marriage violates the tenets of their religion.

    I do want to know though how Christians who have been forced to do business with gays have been dealing with it thus far. Have they just accepted they're going to hell? Are they going to confessional? Are they closing their businesses en masse?
    You'd have to ask them, although how they may feel about it would be totally irrelevant. The question is, are they discriminating against gay people or not.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And in this case catering a gay wedding is not something the business offers to the rest of their customers.
    Ha ha, yeah, I'm pretty sure that's one's been tried already. "We offer the same service we offer to everyone else: serving white customers." You think you're the first genius to think of that "loophole?"

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