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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    The Left can't stand the fact that shops like Memories Pizza can stay in business and not cave to the homosexual agenda.
    Please do not delude yourself. Thee are countless enterprises that only accept specific clientele because their owners did not want to deal with the public and were intelligent enough to avoid controversy. Clearly the ownership of this particular pizza place lacks such intellectual fortitude. One needs not go any further than listen to the interview and it becomes glaringly obvious that they are just plain ignorant bigots.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    Please do not delude yourself. Thee are countless enterprises that only accept specific clientele because their owners did not want to deal with the public and were intelligent enough to avoid controversy. Clearly the ownership of this particular pizza place lacks such intellectual fortitude. One needs not go any further than listen to the interview and it becomes glaringly obvious that they are just plain ignorant bigots.
    So their their sin is in their being honest due to a lack of intelligence?

    How terrible.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I believe the vast majority of us are of the category that believes homoesxuality is wrong and do not support gay marriage
    the vast majority of a small minority.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    I love it when you guys say that someone can exercise their religion all they want, except when the left decides they can't
    The problem here is you folks who proclaim this is all about free exercise of your religious faith without government intrusion forget that it is the very government you're relying on (at the state level) to give you broader reach to exclude anyone you wish from your business practices. As such, you're acting no differently than those religious zealots you claim to despise.

    I listened to Gov. Bobby Jindal this morning on Meet the Press and he was quick to name (specific types of) business owners who were Christians as having a fundamental right to exercise their religious freedom, but excluded other religious faiths. Moreover, he was quick to say if the business owner were say a wedding planner or a caterer as opposed to being the owner of a restaurant that it would be fair to allow the wedding planner or caterer to refuse to provide services to a gay person but that same "religious distinction" wouldn't apply to say a gay person or a Muslim who sat down to have a meal at a fine dinning establishment. Frankly, I see such laws as giving a blank check to any business owner to prohibit services to anyone whose religious values don't mirror their own.

    He went on to talk about how such religious convictions could be extended into the workplace. To which I ask, how far is such religious freedom laws to be extended? Seems to me it's not the government (at least not at the federal level) that's the problem here. It's politicians being unduly influenced at the state-level that's creating this problem - a problem that really doesn't exist in large number to even be a problem for most businesses.

    The way I see it, such state-sanctioned religious freedom laws are nothing but a filter in which business owners can exercise bigotry under the guise of religious freedom.

    This is wrong and corporate executives and the public-at-large were right to come out against it. Moreover, this isn't a liberal issue. This is a common-sense issue. You can refuse to provide a service or sell a product to anyone you wish, but you should have a better, more legitimate reason for doing so besides:

    - Hey! You're a Jew...

    - Hey! You're gay...

    - Hey! You're Black...

    - Hey! You're a Muslim...

    I have a fundamental problem with laws like those IN and AR that tried to put one over on the citizens of their respective states. Such refusals should be because the customer made an unreasonable request, is being disruptive or is a nuisance and causing problems for his customers. Anything else likely wouldn't justify denying service to a paying customer of any public establishment.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    the vast majority of a small minority.
    Define that. What do you think is the 'small minority'...the number of people opposed to gay marriage?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by maxparrish View Post
    So their their sin is in their being honest due to a lack of intelligence?

    How terrible.
    No, being so utterly stupid is not a sin, just most unfortunate. Maybe we can hope that they could learn from all this, though I confess I have my doubts.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by prometeus View Post
    How is making food taking part in anything else but making food?
    If I walk into a bakery and ask the baker to make me a "penis cake" as a, um, gag gift for a party that's just making food, too, isn't it? Is he discriminating against me if he refuses?
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Define that. What do you think is the 'small minority'...the number of people opposed to gay marriage?
    There is no "vast majority" that thinks homosexuality is wrong.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    If I walk into a bakery and ask the baker to make me a "penis cake" as a, um, gag gift for a party that's just making food, too, isn't it? Is he discriminating against me if he refuses?
    Try a gay bakery and they may ask you for specifics, but unless you are attempting to score a meaningless point for some vagina worshiping cult, I fail to see the relevance.
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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Yet another example of liberal tolerance. You gotta love it
    Well it looks to me like you have three choices:
    1) Do business with gays and go to hell
    2) Go to confession afterwards.
    3) Don't start a business in which you may have to do business with gays

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