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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Really? Care to elaborate?
    Sure. Rights are essentially about control over your own life. Part of that is encompassed in the ability to exclude and include certain people and things in your life. If you didn't have the ability to exclude yourself from associations, contracts or sexual interactions for example then it would be impossible to be in control over your own life.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Sure. Rights are essentially about control over your own life. Part of that is encompassed in the ability to exclude and include certain people and things in your life. If you didn't have the ability to exclude yourself from associations, contracts or sexual interactions for example then it would be impossible to be in control over your own life.
    Human rights are rights inherent to all human beings, whatever our nationality, place of residence, sex, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, language, or any other status. We are all equally entitled to our human rights without discrimination. These rights are all interrelated, interdependent and indivisible.
    The comparison has nothing to do with bringing pizza to a gay wedding.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    The comparison has nothing to do with bringing pizza to a gay wedding.
    Where did you get that quote? Anyway, making and delivering a pizza requires the use of someones property, time, labor and service. Those are things people have the right to choose how they will use and who get them.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Where did you get that quote? Anyway, making and delivering a pizza requires the use of someones property, time, labor and service. Those are things people have the right to choose how they will use and who get them.
    Let me google that for you
    They can deny service, but they shouldn't be able to deny service based on their own intolerance.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    A ceremony based around two individuals.
    But a ceremony none the less... one in which they do not want to participate in based on their religious beliefs.

    If they refuse to cater to any non-sacrilegious event or function involving homosexuals, then you'd have a case for discrimination.

    Clearly, anyone who doesn't respect a persons religious beliefs, and chooses to take legal action against them because they refuse to violate those beliefs, is the definition of "intolerant". Not to mention petty, spiteful and juvenile.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    But a ceremony none the less... one in which they do not want to participate in based on their religious beliefs.

    If they refuse to cater to any non-sacrilegious event or function involving homosexuals, then you'd have a case for discrimination.

    Clearly, anyone who doesn't respect a persons religious beliefs, and chooses to take legal action against them because they refuse to violate those beliefs, is the definition of "intolerant". Not to mention petty, spiteful and juvenile.
    Their religious beliefs are intolerant then, sorry. Much like those in the south who used religion to justify slavery, would it be intolerant to go against them, after all, religious freedom! I refuse to respect a belief that looks down on the marriage of others, sorry.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Their religious beliefs are intolerant then, sorry. Much like those in the south who used religion to justify slavery, would it be intolerant to go against them, after all, religious freedom! I refuse to respect a belief that looks down on the marriage of others, sorry.
    Even though it was fairly obvious that you were a religious bigot, I still appreciate you taking the time to confirm it for me.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Dovkan View Post
    Let me google that for you
    They can deny service, but they shouldn't be able to deny service based on their own intolerance.
    Ok.

    So why should their reasons to deny you service be restricted?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Even though it was fairly obvious that you were a religious bigot, I still appreciate you taking the time to confirm it for me.
    Hey, I don't respect others who look down upon a marriage between two lovers, say what you want.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ok.

    So why should their reasons to deny you service be restricted?
    Denying service to an illegal event or such is justified, wait, deny me service? Can you elaborate on this?

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