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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    So you are saying that that Muslim bakery doesn't make cakes?
    Are you saying that the Muslim Deli should be able to make every known sandwich on earth?

    We can do this all day long.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    wrong, in the free market, the price of goods at equilibrium.
    are subject to the laws of supply and demand. when you artificially restrict supply or demand, it is no longer a free market.
    The price of goods is reflected in the law of supply and demand. But the free market is based on mutual consent. I have a product I want to sell you, and if you want the product and you like the price you buy it. If I don't want to sell it to you and the government forces me to do so, that isn't the free market, that's tyranny despite any Orwellian doublespeak

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The problems here is that these people had to go through the courts to have their basic rights validated when that never should have happened. Most people cannot afford the time or money necessary to challenge these discriminatory practices and just move on.

    Just further examples where "The process is the punishment".

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm confused by that last one, actually. How was the professor able to convince the judge that he was denied a promotion due to his faith? The article doesn't make that clear.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Let me answer that by touching on my own career. If you want a portrait done in a certain style, you shop around by going to different websites and seeing what genres and styles are you can expect if you commission a particular artist. Now, I can always ask him to go outside his comfort zone for me, but I have to expect and be okay with the possibilities that he will not choose to do so (I've turned down a client for this reason myself). But it isn't me he's turning down, but the product I asked him to make. That's what you and everybody else here holding your position have such a terribly difficult time understanding: Discrimination doesn't refer to the product/service being requested, but the identity of the customer doing the requesting.
    No it is not the customer, as the pizza owner explained, but the traditional ritual of marriage which is involved. These are two very different things.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Although you and I come from across a wide aisle in our politics, even you and I can agree that there are people who's consciences are better left unfollowed.
    Such as?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    OK for this time, and this time only, I will do your work for you.

    At 2:13
    Not especially cleverly edited. If the baker had said outright, "We're not serving you because you're gay," they absolutely would have included it. Therefore, the baker was telling the customer where he thought he would stand a better chance of getting the product he wanted.

    , 2:21,
    ...and again...

    2:36,
    ...and again...

    2:50,
    ...and again...(wait, didn't we cover this guy already?)

    and 3:19
    ...aaaaaand again...

    All refused him a cake and sent him somewhere else.
    Because of the cake he wanted from them, not because he was gay.

    That last guy wouldn't even write anything on top of a cake, he just didn't want to.

    Did you really not see any of that?
    I saw it, and saw that a troll video doesn't support your position.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    Such as?
    Oh ffs does it really tax your imagination to think that you and I could both agree on a type of person being objectively terrible?

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No it is not the customer, as the pizza owner explained, but the traditional ritual of marriage which is involved. These are two very different things.
    In your mind that is the important thing, perhaps, but it isn't relevant to the meaning of discrimination.

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    Re: Indiana's 'No Gay Wedding' Pizzeria Has Closed

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The problems here is that these people had to go through the courts to have their basic rights validated when that never should have happened. Most people cannot afford the time or money necessary to challenge these discriminatory practices and just move on.

    Just further examples where "The process is the punishment".
    How terrible that people have to go to court to show they have been discriminated against if they want compensation or wrongs made right. I mean, nobody else has to do that. Just Christians. Yep!
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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