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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    We already have a federal RFTA law which protects religious liberty.
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    Quite obviously not enough.

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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Quite obviously not enough.
    So you think public business should be able to discriminate against Jews, Evangelists, blacks, Catholics, gays, Jehovah's Witness, disabled persons , Mormons , etc.

    Would it make you happy if Jewish people had to wear stars again ?
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    So you think public business should be able to discriminate against Jews, Evangelists, blacks, Catholics, gays, Jehovah's Witness, disabled persons , Mormons , etc.

    Would it make you happy if Jewish people had to wear stars again ?
    I do not think that is the alternative and I believe it harms the civil right movement to argue thus. It makes the movement look ridiculously stupid and even dangerous to the citizens. Individuals with no skin in the SSM issue and even those without any interest in following it have to feel threatened, where some idiots begin punishing private individuals for acting on their conscience. A society that lets that happen in one case and does not protect the hated minority might do so in a totally different case against the enemy du jour. And any citizen can find herself the victim.

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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    I do not think that is the alternative and I believe it harms the civil right movement to argue thus. It makes the movement look ridiculously stupid and even dangerous to the citizens. Individuals with no skin in the SSM issue and even those without any interest in following it have to feel threatened, where some idiots begin punishing private individuals for acting on their conscience. A society that lets that happen in one case and does not protect the hated minority might do so in a totally different case against the enemy du jour. And any citizen can find herself the victim.
    An individual does not have go against their conscience .
    The federal RFTA act protects them.
    Public businesses however , are not allowed to discrimate based on race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation.

    As I posted on another thread Religious liberty is for all.



    A few sentences taken from The Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice also applies to pubic business not discriminating as well as to reproductive choice.

    Religious Liberty
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    The freedom of religion is indeed our first freedom and a universally treasured American value dating back to the founding of our nation.
    As a diverse coalition of religious denominations and religiously-affiliated organizations, the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice has an intimate understanding of the important role faith plays in one’s personal and public life. ...
    However, the First Amendment makes clear that public policy is not to be based on faith alone – in a religiously diverse, pluralistic society, favoring any one religious worldview is wrong and inherently biased. Good policy is policy that allows for all people – regardless of their religious identity – to follow their own faith and conscience when directing the course of their life. ...Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual.
    Last edited by minnie616; 04-03-15 at 11:34 AM.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    An individual does not have go against their conscience .
    The federal RFTA act protects them.
    Public businesses however , are not allowed to discrimate based on race, gender, religion, or sexual orientation.

    As I posted on another thread Religious liberty is for all.



    A few sentences taken from The Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice also applies to pubic business not discriminating as well as to reproductive choice.
    Sorry. That is crap.

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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Sorry. That is crap.
    I disagree.

    justabubba recently posted a link on another thread to a short 5 minute radio interview with a Rev. of the Disciples of Christ Church about why they put their principles into practice regarding the Ind. RFTA law.


    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    there are some who indicate a belief that the Disciples of Christ were engaging in political activism
    this may change your mind, such that you recognize this congregation is following is religious principles and putting those principles into practice
    were there more Christians like these
    Indiana Church Opposed State's Earlier Religious Liberty Law : NPR
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    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...dom-law-9.html
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    I disagree.

    justabubba recently posted a link on another thread to a short 5 minute radio interview with a Rev. of the Disciples of Christ Church about why they put their principles into practice regarding the Ind. RFTA law.




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    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...dom-law-9.html
    I am sorry. It is obvious that religious practivpractice is not protected.

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