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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You guys are just upset because the American people stood up to the right-wing agenda and said "Not in our country".

    Yeah. That must be why Republicans have such a majority of Governerships, State Legislatures, and the largest majority in the Federal Congress that they've had since before the New Deal.
    Worth noting, Democrats: President Trump will have a Pen and a Phone. #Precedent.

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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Yeah ... representative democracy is so dumb.
    The Representatives of the People are the ones who wrote and then passed this bill. It's the screaming loonies who are pulling their dresses over their heads whom the governor is bowing to.
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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yeah. That must be why Republicans have such a majority of Governerships, State Legislatures, and the largest majority in the Federal Congress that they've had since before the New Deal.
    What are you talking about? Completely unrelated to what I was talking about. Not all Republicans are right-wingers or cowtow to their agenda. In fact, I would say the majority aren't. I don't think most Republicans would try to pass this kind of BS legislation. Its an interesting time for the GOP right now. You have a strong group of moderate GOP contingent that is battling with the right-wingers over control of the party. They see the damage that the right-wing has done and they know full well that if the GOP is ever going to see the whitehouse again in the near future...they are going to have to ditch the right-wing rhetoric....but lets get back to the topic at hand.

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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    What boggles my mind is that all these religions, Christian, Jew, Muslim whatever need to do is have a coming to Jesus moment. (See what I did there) If they all came together to organize a internet and bulling campaign on their own, these little gaystoppo nimrods wouldn't have a foot to stand on, and the complicit MSM pushing all this along would be frightened little girly girls, just like all these states and corporations threatening boycotts, would run like the wind pushing each other out of the way to get back to the right side of things..

    So comical, watching all this play out right now that a very small minority is causing so much stir. All it would take is someone to lead the religious into the light, and begin fighting back, and all you little giddy progressives would cower. Thing is, the ACLU and the IRS have it so churches and synagogues cannot bring it up in service as to not lose their tax exempt status.. LOL How freaking funny is that? They're not even allowed (Because religion is protected by the first amendment ya know) to talk about it in their own church and fight back...

    Seems like the progressives have it all figured out regarding religion in this country. They've made it so their targets have no speech to fight back with.. What a great country, eh? Well, I should say Christians as their main target because they're easy to pick on, Jews not so much, and Muslims.. Hehehe, well we all know how brave and principled progressive really are when the chips fall..

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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    What boggles my mind is that all these religions, Christian, Jew, Muslim whatever need to do is have a coming to Jesus moment. (See what I did there) If they all came together to organize a internet and bulling campaign on their own, these little gaystoppo nimrods wouldn't have a foot to stand on, and the complicit MSM pushing all this along would be frightened little girly girls, just like all these states and corporations threatening boycotts, would run like the wind pushing each other out of the way to get back to the right side of things..

    So comical, watching all this play out right now that a very small minority is causing so much stir. All it would take is someone to lead the religious into the light, and begin fighting back, and all you little giddy progressives would cower. Thing is, the ACLU and the IRS have it so churches and synagogues cannot bring it up in service as to not lose their tax exempt status.. LOL How freaking funny is that? They're not even allowed (Because religion is protected by the first amendment ya know) to talk about it in their own church and fight back...

    Seems like the progressives have it all figured out regarding religion in this country. They've made it so their targets have no speech to fight back with.. What a great country, eh? Well, I should say Christians as their main target because they're easy to pick on, Jews not so much, and Muslims.. Hehehe, well we all know how brave and principled progressive really are when the chips fall..

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    No not a small minority - of the 20 States that have it most are mirrored on the federal law. Next -Not all Christians are against SSM. yet you seem to believe so.
    Now 2 more will do the same.

    A small minority- Nope- a substantial that believe in human rights.
    Churches are protected - stating they cannot bring up that they are against SSM is ludicrous.
    If my post offends you, I deeply Apple-O-Jize.

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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Dumb. Politically understandable, given the insane people screaming right now, but dumb. If you bow down to idiots, you only encourage them.
    I wouldn't go so far as to call the social conservatives "idiots"...

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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    I wouldn't go so far as to call the social conservatives "idiots"...
    That's interesting - I was unaware that it was social conservatives running around with their hair on fire about how a law to apply the strict scrutiny standard to cases involving religious expression was going to result in some kind of wave of Jim Crow laws, and demanding on CNN that people completely unassociated with either the state in question or politics at all denounce the heresy of Unapproved Thought.
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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I was unaware that it was social conservatives
    who wrote the law in Arkansas that initially started this?
    That the Arkansas governor said he would sign the law last Friday until WAL-MART and the rest of corporate Arkansas asked him not to sign it?

    On behalf of all DEMs, I'd like to thank your team for this 'Akin/Mourdock' type of unforced error.
    We all know how that went in 2012 .
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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No they don't. No one is telling anyone what they can practice in their church or in their homes. People have the right to free religious expression and always will....there is nothing threatening that. What they don't have a right to do is to use that religion as a shield and proclaim that it allows them to discriminate.
    What you are saying is that you do not go with free expression of opinions or free religious practice. That is really quite sad.

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    Re: Arkansas Governor Asks Lawmakers to Recall Contentious Religious Freedom Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by SenorXm/Sirius View Post
    Ah in the 'old days' huh? So the gays are not suppressed anymore, especially by conservatives? This whole problem NOW is the gays themselves? And the media? The courts? Clinton? And of course Obama, everything is his fault. Everyone is to blame but the Republicans and conservatives. Right?

    Sad thing is I really think you believe that.
    What I do think is that you want to change the meaning of the Constitution without doing it by Amendment. I know that is something that is much easier at first. But the more the process robs people of the rights they had, the more bigoted the transformers become as they are in this case, the worse will become the conflict and very possibly the backlash or other damage. In this case the damage will probably be severe, as the rights being terminated are fundamental to the social fabric and culture. I have been watching this type of legal creep either first hand or at arm's length for years in different societies around the world and have selectively looked at such processes in history. And all I would like to point out here is that the purveyors of the movement usually sounded just like you. People like Lenin were more intellectual and the Röhms were more robust and the Europhiles smoother. But with all said and done the results have been awful in many cases.

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