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    Re: Arkansas passes its own religious freedom bill despite uproar in Indiana

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    I'll give you the answer: the RFRA can't be used to override a States' interest in promoting public accommodation.
    And when the **** hits the fan, the rats will jump ship.
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    Re: Arkansas passes its own religious freedom bill despite uproar in Indiana

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    And when the **** hits the fan, the rats will jump ship.
    I don't know what **** you are referring to.

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    Re: Arkansas passes its own religious freedom bill despite uproar in Indiana

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Isn't that great. Businesses allowed to openly lobby government.

    Did Walmart indicate they would pull their businesses out of the 30 states with RFRA laws? Or are they jumping on the "sweet! Look at the good press I can get!" bandwagon?
    What's disturbing is that if Arkansas does end up shooting down this bill it will be because of lobbying by businesses such as Walmart and not because of individuals' concerns, just as it was corporations who were really the cause of net neutrality being continued and not due to our yammering.

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    Re: Arkansas passes its own religious freedom bill despite uproar in Indiana

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Not really, and in the history of RFRA's, not a single one has been successfully used to defend against discrimination, and if one DID the SCOTUS would shoot it down. So this is all inane tempest in a teapot stupidity.
    How many such cases have appeared since the Hobby Lobby decision?

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    Re: Arkansas passes its own religious freedom bill despite uproar in Indiana

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What's disturbing is that if Arkansas does end up shooting down this bill it will be because of lobbying by businesses such as Walmart and not because of individuals' concerns, just as it was corporations who were really the cause of net neutrality being continued and not due to our yammering.
    This was a country founded by the merchant class. I think it is working exactly as intended.

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    Re: Arkansas passes its own religious freedom bill despite uproar in Indiana

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Nothing in any of the RFRA laws target anyone, and you are just projecting your incorrect views. Like myself & legal experts have stated, and the opponents of these laws won't accept, is the RFRA has NEVER been used to successfully discriminate by denying service. But keep beating that drum.

    Exactly, and lest anyone be fooled, this is all about the secular left hijacking (Really using the useful idiots of the homosexual gay lobby) as a rallying cry to stop what they (The secular left - read progressives) feel is empowering religious conviction more, which is something they along with the ACLU have been working so very hard to diminish, and with some success.

    This isn't about gay rights and discrimination as much as it is about a very well funded and aggressive movement in America that wants religion to stay between the four walls of a church and nowhere else is it welcomed. THAT's what this is really about, and the MSM (Although complicit) and the gay lobby bought the meme hook-line-sinker. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are many in the gay lobby that really and honestly feel that protecting religious freedom in the language used in Indiana's law threatens them, but frankly, what should threaten them more is that currently there is no special protections for them in that state. Seems that the gay left, and the MSM attached themselves to the wrong issue, and that's just fine with the secular progressives!


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    Re: Arkansas passes its own religious freedom bill despite uproar in Indiana

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Its like I have been saying.....now the left accepts business and corporations as being people. Just a few months ago they were running around and saying Businesses and Corporations weren't people.

    See what happens when the Wonder Twins (Progressives & Liberals) get together and.....Activate.
    Your reputation for warrantless taunting proceeds you. You don't know, no one does, that progressives and liberals have switched positions. Your inference that the "Wonder Twins" now support Citizens United is unfounded and malicious.

    Wrong is wrong, it doesn't matter who does it or why. I would be most surprised to discover that liberals and progressives would be at all willing to throw their opposition to Citizens United to hell all over legislation in Indiana. Certainly most liberals, progressives, independents and likely many conservatives do not support corporate personhood.

    Do you really think for one second that Walmart has taken a position in Indiana to support of the common good of the citizens in Indiana? No, of course you don't. Neither do most liberals and progressives or anyone else for that matter.










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    Re: Arkansas passes its own religious freedom bill despite uproar in Indiana

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Exactly, and lest anyone be fooled, this is all about the secular left hijacking (Really using the useful idiots of the homosexual gay lobby) as a rallying cry to stop what they (The secular left - read progressives) feel is empowering religious conviction more, which is something they along with the ACLU have been working so very hard to diminish, and with some success.

    This isn't about gay rights and discrimination as much as it is about a very well funded and aggressive movement in America that wants religion to stay between the four walls of a church and nowhere else is it welcomed. THAT's what this is really about, and the MSM (Although complicit) and the gay lobby bought the meme hook-line-sinker. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are many in the gay lobby that really and honestly feel that protecting religious freedom in the language used in Indiana's law threatens them, but frankly, what should threaten them more is that currently there is no special protections for them in that state. Seems that the gay left, and the MSM attached themselves to the wrong issue, and that's just fine with the secular progressives!


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    Re: Arkansas passes its own religious freedom bill despite uproar in Indiana

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Exactly, and lest anyone be fooled, this is all about the secular left hijacking (Really using the useful idiots of the homosexual gay lobby) as a rallying cry to stop what they (The secular left - read progressives) feel is empowering religious conviction more, which is something they along with the ACLU have been working so very hard to diminish, and with some success.

    This isn't about gay rights and discrimination as much as it is about a very well funded and aggressive movement in America that wants religion to stay between the four walls of a church and nowhere else is it welcomed. THAT's what this is really about, and the MSM (Although complicit) and the gay lobby bought the meme hook-line-sinker. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are many in the gay lobby that really and honestly feel that protecting religious freedom in the language used in Indiana's law threatens them, but frankly, what should threaten them more is that currently there is no special protections for them in that state. Seems that the gay left, and the MSM attached themselves to the wrong issue, and that's just fine with the secular progressives!


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    Re: Arkansas passes its own religious freedom bill despite uproar in Indiana

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Your reputation for warrantless taunting proceeds you. You don't know, no one does, that progressives and liberals have switched positions. Your inference that the "Wonder Twins" now support Citizens United is unfounded and malicious.

    Wrong is wrong, it doesn't matter who does it or why. I would be most surprised to discover that liberals and progressives would be at all willing to throw their opposition to Citizens United to hell all over legislation in Indiana. Certainly most liberals, progressives, independents and likely many conservatives do not support corporate personhood.

    Do you really think for one second that Walmart has taken a position in Indiana to support of the common good of the citizens in Indiana? No, of course you don't. Neither do most liberals and progressives or anyone else for that matter.

    Yeah I give as good as I get. All know this.

    Well when you have the CEO of Apple talking cutting business in a state and is cheered on while not even checking with his own attorneys over this issue before speaking out. What do you think that says. Moreover when you have Pro Gay Rights attorneys talking about they favor the law. To not mischaracterize it. Then have those Conservatives and Republicans all saying the same thing as the Pro Gay Rights attorneys are.

    It does put it in the perspective it is. But like mentioned.....Apple didn't want to speak up about doing Business in the ME nor China. Then they want to talk about the good they have done.

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