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    Re: Anne Frank died earlier than thought, new study says

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Didn't Meyer Levin write it and sue Otto Frank over it winning $50,000.00. Maybe I'm thinking of something else.
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    Re: Anne Frank died earlier than thought, new study says

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    A major part of its importance was that it put a human face on the unfathomably vast horror that was the Holocaust; in particular, the face of an innocent and harmless young girl who would end up dead at 15 for no other reason that being born Jewish.

    For that reason alone it's importance in history cannot be understated.
    It wasn't published until 2 years after the war ended and there were far more interesting stories of Holocaust victims and survivors, but some people are just more into toeing the line with politically correct interpretations of propaganda pieces than others. It is a boring story even as far the Holocaust goes.
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    Re: Anne Frank died earlier than thought, new study says

    I saw the movie when I was younger and I put it right up there with schindlers list.

    both very detailed stories of life under Nazi Germany and what people went through and the horror that was brought on them and their families.
    for absolutely no reason at all other than a persons delusional rant.

    it is an atrocity that should never ever be repeated.

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    Re: Anne Frank died earlier than thought, new study says

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    It wasn't published until 2 years after the war ended and there were far more interesting stories of Holocaust victims and survivors, but some people are just more into toeing the line with politically correct interpretations of propaganda pieces than others. It is a boring story even as far the Holocaust goes.


    I'll grant you that the diary of a young girl hidden in an attic for two years isn't the most compelling reading. In the diary itself there isn't a lot that happens that could be termed "exciting" or even too very dramatic. When I read it myself I thought a good bit of it was rather tedious.

    But even so, the overall impact of getting to know a young girl as a real person (through her diary) and realizing that her young life was cut short by that atrocity has had an impact on possibly hundreds of millions of people. I remember in class when we were reading the book, and someone asked "Well what happened to Anne Frank anyway? Did she get away?" and the teacher shook her head and said "No. Her family was caught and taken to a Nazi death camp, and Anne Frank died there at the age of 15."

    For a long moment, it was quiet enough you could hear a pin drop, as that sank in.

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    Re: Anne Frank died earlier than thought, new study says

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'll grant you that the diary of a young girl hidden in an attic for two years isn't the most compelling reading. In the diary itself there isn't a lot that happens that could be termed "exciting" or even too very dramatic. When I read it myself I thought a good bit of it was rather tedious.

    But even so, the overall impact of getting to know a young girl as a real person (through her diary) and realizing that her young life was cut short by that atrocity has had an impact on possibly hundreds of millions of people. I remember in class when we were reading the book, and someone asked "Well what happened to Anne Frank anyway? Did she get away?" and the teacher shook her head and said "No. Her family was caught and taken to a Nazi death camp, and Anne Frank died there at the age of 15."

    For a long moment, it was quiet enough you could hear a pin drop, as that sank in.
    And that is what makes it a propaganda piece. Children are forced to read it in school before they really have to read any other stories dealing with deaths of a major character. The person whose story I followed through the Holocaust Museum in those little books they give you to track a person as you move through the exhibit was far more interesting a story, and they lived. In the end, it is part of an effort that does a disservice to the true story of the Holocaust by trying to paint Jews as the only victims people think about when people think about the Holocaust.
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    Re: Anne Frank died earlier than thought, new study says

    I never read her diary but what interests me about the Anne Frank story is that they never found out who betrayed the family to the Nazis- its a mystery that will probably never be solved- like Jack The Ripper.

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    Re: Anne Frank died earlier than thought, new study says

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    And that is what makes it a propaganda piece. Children are forced to read it in school before they really have to read any other stories dealing with deaths of a major character. The person whose story I followed through the Holocaust Museum in those little books they give you to track a person as you move through the exhibit was far more interesting a story, and they lived. In the end, it is part of an effort that does a disservice to the true story of the Holocaust by trying to paint Jews as the only victims people think about when people think about the Holocaust.
    Since when is the truth 'propaganda'? All those who were victims of Germany's National Socialists may have had a story to tell and the world is grateful that a young girl had the brief opportunity to explain her life.

    Although you have probably never heard of Viktor Frankl, he had another fascinating take on the National Socialist death camps and created an entirely new school of psychotherapy based on his experiences and insights developed there.

    It seems, in your case, that propaganda is something you just don't want to hear.

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    Re: Anne Frank died earlier than thought, new study says

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Since when is the truth 'propaganda'? All those who were victims of Germany's National Socialists may have had a story to tell and the world is grateful that a young girl had the brief opportunity to explain her life.

    Although you have probably never heard of Viktor Frankl, he had another fascinating take on the National Socialist death camps and created an entirely new school of psychotherapy based on his experiences and insights developed there.

    It seems, in your case, that propaganda is something you just don't want to hear.
    Propaganda is what other people want you to hear, and you are a willing participant. Wonder why we don't hear much about the Russian victims. Did they deserve it because they were Russians? How about the gays? How about the Poles? Even the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum is all about Jewish victims and scant on the other demographics. That is propaganda.
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    Re: Anne Frank died earlier than thought, new study says

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    Propaganda is what other people want you to hear, and you are a willing participant.
    Why would I want to hear of a young girl's diary? In fact I've never read the book or seen the movie but understand it as another example of how inhumane people can be. We see similar events taking place in the Middle East and Africa today.

    Wonder why we don't hear much about the Russian victims.
    In fact there are many books based on Russians suffering and dying under Communism, as well as Russian treatment of Poles, Jews, Germans, and so on.. Are you familiar with any of them?

    Did they deserve it because they were Russians? How about the gays? How about the Poles? Even the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum is all about Jewish victims and scant on the other demographics. That is propaganda.
    How is it propaganda? It seems you are unclear on the meaning of the word.

    It seems you know as little of the Holocaust Museum as you do about 'propaganda'. United States Holocaust Memorial Museum

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