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    Re: Arizona governor signs bill blocking abortion coverage through Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    not if they aren't involved, as you said you wanted.
    You missed the point

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    Re: Arizona governor signs bill blocking abortion coverage through Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It is not the increase or decrease in costs that is relevant here. It is the forced participation in what is considered by many religious groups to be murder.
    There's no participation. They are paying less money for the abortion. There are no additional charges for them to pass along to you. If you truly want to not participate, you should require that the insurance companies pay MORE for an abortion. Because that is what would happen if the child comes to term.
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    Re: Arizona governor signs bill blocking abortion coverage through Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    And those who get their insurance through subsidy? (which is the point of Obamacare)
    The "subsidies" are tax credits. IOW, the money comes from the individual who purchases a plan that covers abortion.

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    If a plan pays for abortions then everyone in the plan is paying for abortions and participating. If the State pays people's premium, then every taxpayer is also a perpetrator.
    The State doesn't pay anyone's premium.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Arizona governor signs bill blocking abortion coverage through Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post

    What you want and what is available is determined by the market and your ability to pay. Just like every other product or service is.
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    Is that why you support a law that prohibits the market from offering a service (ie coverage for abortion) that the market wants to offer for sale?
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Arizona governor signs bill blocking abortion coverage through Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    There's no participation. They are paying less money for the abortion. There are no additional charges for them to pass along to you. If you truly want to not participate, you should require that the insurance companies pay MORE for an abortion. Because that is what would happen if the child comes to term.
    That is not true. It does not make an iota of difference to the argument, whether abortions save money or not. It is the paying for them that counts.

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    Re: Arizona governor signs bill blocking abortion coverage through Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    That is not true. It does not make an iota of difference to the argument, whether abortions save money or not. It is the paying for them that counts.
    You're not paying for them in any way, shape, or form.
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    Re: Arizona governor signs bill blocking abortion coverage through Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    You're not paying for them in any way, shape, or form.
    How so? Do the policies not cover abortion?

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    Re: Arizona governor signs bill blocking abortion coverage through Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Arizona governor signs bill blocking abortion coverage through Obamacare | Reuters





    Cue a federal court smackdown in 3....2....1.....

    what a waste of taxpayer $ this stunt is.
    These backass republican Govs are not doing their party any favors.
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    Or maybe "We now understand why women provoke men into hitting them".
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    . Losing insurance does not mean losing healthcare. .

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    Re: Arizona governor signs bill blocking abortion coverage through Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    How so? Do the policies not cover abortion?
    Only for people who are pregnant.
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    Re: Arizona governor signs bill blocking abortion coverage through Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Tsunami View Post
    Only for people who are pregnant.
    Then, anyone paying a premium into the policy is participating in abortion by financing it.

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