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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    That's better than saying it's all on the left.
    Apparently you've shifted to the center just as Jeb Bush has tonight .

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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

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    That's their choice to make.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

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    That's better than saying it's all on the left.
    Apparently you've shifted to the center just as Jeb Bush has tonight .
    Please see my link at #257. That has been my view throughout.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

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    Please see the link in #257. It is anything but cavalier.
    Okay, blatant trolling on your part, myopic stupidity on Kathleen Parker's part.

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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    What would be your question?
    Does this clarify it for you? I asked for you to source this statement:

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    The campaigns of which you are apparently unaware were quite powerful and lasted centuries.
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    Really? I would like some sources for that, specifically for the institution of marriage.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

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    Okay, blatant trolling on your part, myopic stupidity on Kathleen Parker's part.
    We'll have to disagree. I think she has it just right.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

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    Does this clarify it for you? I asked for you to source this statement:
    What is it about the institution of marriage that you want to know?
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Sorry, but I can't discern a point to answer.
    It was my response to your opinion that the delays and discomfort of 'adjustment' are reasonable.

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    The movement from laws against homosexuality to gay marriage has been accomplished in about 10% of the time it took to move from Appomattox to the Civil Rights Act, so no, I don't think think acceptance of some messiness at this moment is unreasonable. Especially since the number of people directly affected negatively would be minuscule.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    If it's 'wrong,' it's wrong. If gays deserve equal rights, then they do....period.

    And each individual deserves that respect and equality....IMO that may be part of the problem....not seeing gays as individuals....just seeing their 'sexual habits.' Yet, minority or not...the Const. specifically protects minorities from the majority.

    We now are on a tangent from bakeries and wedding photographers tho....because SSM does not infringe on anyone's religious freedom, while there are indeed 2 sides to 'serving' the sinners.
    Obviously, I dont feel that it is (reasonable).

    I am part of a generation that people will look back on much as they did those that accepted slavery.....ignorant at best, malicious at worst. I hope that this is overcome so that history will look back and see change for the better, and not ignorance. I do not wish to be included in the former judgements.

    And so, no, I dont feel it's reasonable. You dont agree, I understand. No response needed if you have none.
    "Freedom doesn't mean safe, it means free."

    "No, you'll be *a* judge of that, just like everyone else who reads it."
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    What is it about the institution of marriage that you want to know?
    So you cannot support your claim that the challenges to the other things allowed in marriage that I mentioned (adultery, fornication, other sinners, non-believers) all happened in the past? Fine, just say so.

    I can repost AGAIN where you made the claim, including my post that included my initial statements, but it's looking like that would be an exercise in futility....since you evade again.
    "Freedom doesn't mean safe, it means free."

    "No, you'll be *a* judge of that, just like everyone else who reads it."
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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