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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    In a time of extremely rapid cultural evolution the number of actual cases will be small and decrease quickly. Tolerance means not getting everything you want all the time. And the religious conservatives have legitimate human rights and constitutional claims of their own.
    Let's hope your first sentence is true.

    As for the rest, one shouldn't have to pass a religious test in order to do business.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    I don't exactly see anybody trying to make their marriages illegal nor barring their access to places of public accommodation.
    SSM is secure, and the extraordinarily rapid cultural evolution to achieve that is experienced by religious conservatives as an assault on their consciences.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

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    It does in an orderly civilized society, where they wish to practice their faith. I remind you that there are ways for them to both conduct business and keep their faith without practicing random discrimination.

    In almost all case I think you are right. But not in absolutely all.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The movement from illegal homosexuality to gay marriage has been accomplished in 10% of the time it took to get from the Emancipation Proclamation to the Civil Rights Act. Your comparison fails.
    Well, some of us might expect more from people these days than we could have expected in 1865. Then again, if you're looking for excuses for bigotry, I suppose that one works as well as any other.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Jeb is changing his position on the Indiana law .


    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The movement from illegal homosexuality to gay marriage has been accomplished in 10% of the time it took to get from the Emancipation Proclamation to the Civil Rights Act. Your comparison fails.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    And just what are their legitimate human rights and constitutional claims?
    Freedom of conscience is a human right and freedom of religion is protected under our Constitution.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

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    Let's hope your first sentence is true.

    As for the rest, one shouldn't have to pass a religious test in order to do business.
    Again, tolerance means everyone is a little bit disappointed.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Well, some of us might expect more from people these days than we could have expected in 1865. Then again, if you're looking for excuses for bigotry, I suppose that one works as well as any other.
    The bigotry is on both sides of this question. Tolerance means everyone has to be a little bit disappointed.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Again, tolerance means everyone is a little bit disappointed.
    LGBT customers will be disappointed while the "Christian" business owners will be anything but.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

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    LGBT customers will be disappointed while the "Christian" business owners will be anything but.
    The business owners will lose business and risk losing more.
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