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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Which means you are incorrect that it allows people to discriminate for any reason. You need to keep your story straight.

    Pence has asked for clarification to appease those with pitchforks that don't understand basic reading comprehension.
    LOL...too funny. Pence asked for "clarification" because he got caught. It he was telling the truth and the law didn't allow people to discriminate, why did he refuse to answer the question 6 times? SIX TIMES? Doh!. You guys are fools if you believe the rhetoric that they are selling you. You need look no further than the fact that if Pence and the bigots were telling the truth....there would be no need to change the law. They are trying to figure out how to save face now that they got they encurred the wrath of the American people which they were not expecting. Talk about poor judgement.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL...too funny. Pence asked for "clarification" because he got caught. It he was telling the truth and the law didn't allow people to discriminate, why did he refuse to answer the question 6 times? SIX TIMES? Doh!. You guys are fools if you believe the rhetoric that they are selling you. You need look no further than the fact that if Pence and the bigots were telling the truth....there would be no need to change the law. They are trying to figure out how to save face now that they got they encurred the wrath of the American people which they were not expecting. Talk about poor judgement.
    Ha, no. He is trying to make it perfectly clear how laws work, down to the least common denominator: the asshats that don't understand how laws work. Its a sign of the times, and the coming reality of Idiocracy.

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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Ha, no. He is trying to make it perfectly clear how laws work, down to the least common denominator: the asshats that don't understand how laws work. Its a sign of the times, and the coming reality of Idiocracy.
    Wow....take off your blinders man. If that were true....why did Pence refuse to answer the question 6 times? Seriously dude....SIX TIMES. Don't be fooled.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Wow....take off your blinders man. If that were true....why did Pence refuse to answer the question 6 times? Seriously dude....SIX TIMES. Don't be fooled.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It wasn't, that's completely dishonest of you. It was intended, to mirror the National RFRA that was barred from being applied to state courts. The only ones that screamed discrimination were those with a political agenda. This is to clarify that those people are idiots.
    You might want to address users on this board who thought it was a license to discriminate. There is a thread based on that topic.

    The law might have been intended to mirror the RFRA, but it didn't. There was broad language in the Indiana bill that was not in the federal law. The fix is to clarify that language.

    Here's the difference between the federal RFRA and 19 states as compared to Indiana law as it is now (before the fix):
    First, the Indiana law explicitly allows any for-profit business to assert a right to “the free exercise of religion.” The federal RFRA doesn’t contain such language, and neither does any of the state RFRAs except South Carolina’s; in fact, Louisiana and Pennsylvania, explicitly exclude for-profit businesses from the protection of their RFRAs.

    The new Indiana statute also contains this odd language: “A person whose exercise of religion has been substantially burdened, or is likely to be substantially burdened, by a violation of this chapter may assert the violation or impending violation as a claim or defense in a judicial or administrative proceeding, regardless of whether the state or any other governmental entity is a party to the proceeding.” (My italics.) Neither the federal RFRA, nor 18 of the 19 state statutes cited by the Post, says anything like this; only the Texas RFRA, passed in 1999, contains similar language.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by maxparrish View Post
    And is there something in liberal ideology that says a quaker can consciously object to laws requiring participation in a war, but cannot object to what kind of cupcakes he/she provides gays?
    Seriously?

    The baker signed up to bake cupcakes for the public and accept money in return for those products and when doing so agreed to all kinds of rules about baking and selling food products.

    The Quakers didn't sign up to kill people and only object which people they have to kill.

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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

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    great come to Indiana we'll pay you less
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    You might want to address users on this board who thought it was a license to discriminate. There is a thread based on that topic.

    The law might have been intended to mirror the RFRA, but it didn't. There was broad language in the Indiana bill that was not in the federal law. The fix is to clarify that language.

    Here's the difference between the federal RFRA and 19 states as compared to Indiana law as it is now (before the fix):


    Indiana Religious Freedom Restoration Act Allows Private Businesses to Discriminate Against Employees Based on Sexual Orientation
    A: that's an opinion.
    B: it would have been rightly shot down
    C: was not the objective

    This is manufactured bs.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    The entire episode can summarized with a picture:



    Keep playing the game.
    Well, you got one thing right, it's a red wedge. After all, it's the right-wing that is attempting to back discrimination and divide people, as usual.

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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    A: that's an opinion.
    B: it would have been rightly shot down
    C: was not the objective

    This is manufactured bs.
    What's so funny is all the people engaged in this "manufactured BS" did was listen to supporters of the law while it was being considered - what they said the law was intended to do - and listened to Pence SIX TIMES refuse to say the law does NOT allow businesses to discriminate.

    So if it's a manufactured controversy, blame the people lying about the intent and the result of the law, including the Governor. It's as if Pence is saying, "It's unfair you believed what my supporters, those pushing this bill, people I invited to the signing ceremony said about this bill!!! It has nothing to do with teh gays!! Sure, those guys RIGHT BEHIND ME WHILE I SIGN THIS said over and over it was all about teh gays, but they were wrong. TRUST ME!!"

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