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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    When you open up a business to the public, you have an obligation to serve the public. You don't get to pick and choose which members of the public you serve. If that was the case, restaurants and hotels in the South would still be refusing to serve blacks.
    But I only want to serve a portion of the public. What law does not permit this? I ask again please show me the law that does not allow me to do exactly that?

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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

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    Actually yes I do, and you would lose, in fact you wouldn't even get to a trial.

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    Sorry...but you are wrong. If that were remotely true...why couldn't the baker or the florist simply put up a sign that says "I only do business with Christians" or "I only do business with Heterosexuals"...or better yet "I only do business with conservatives"....and then when the gay couple comes in says "I'm sorry...but if you believe in gay marriage you are obviously not conservative and I only do business with conservatives so therefore....have a nice day". See....sorry Tim....doesn't work that way.

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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

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    This was a satirical piece, surely you knew this?

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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

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    But I only want to serve a portion of the public. What law does not permit this? I ask again please show me the law that does not allow me to do exactly that?

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    Well there's that annoying 1964 Civil Rights Act.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sorry...but you are wrong. If that were remotely true...why couldn't the baker or the florist simply put up a sign that says "I only do business with Christians" or "I only do business with Heterosexuals"...or better yet "I only do business with conservatives"....and then when the gay couple comes in says "I'm sorry...but if you believe in gay marriage you are obviously not conservative and I only do business with conservatives so therefore....have a nice day". See....sorry Tim....doesn't work that way.
    I know some gay conservatives actually, so that wouldn't work.

    What is to stop me from opening a business that ONLY caters to a specific demographic? Why MUST the business be public at all? I can open a store on any busy street and what law says that this is now a public business?

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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Well there's that annoying 1964 Civil Rights Act.
    political ideology isn't a protected right, being black or male or female is, so no, sorry that does not answer my question.

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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I know some gay conservatives actually, so that wouldn't work.

    What is to stop me from opening a business that ONLY caters to a specific demographic? Why MUST the business be public at all? I can open a store on any busy street and what law says that this is now a public business?

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    Sure it would. If your suggestion to get around the law were in fact possible...the bigoted florist or baker could say "Anyone who believes in gay marriage is not a conservative...even if you claim to be...it is clear to me that you aren't. So since I only do business with conservatives, I refusing to do business with you....have a nice day". See. It doesn't work that way. Props for at least attempting to be creative though.

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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I know some gay conservatives actually, so that wouldn't work.

    What is to stop me from opening a business that ONLY caters to a specific demographic? Why MUST the business be public at all? I can open a store on any busy street and what law says that this is now a public business?

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    You CAN cater to a specific demographic...but you can't refuse patronage to that demographic. For instance. You can open a shop selling Christian books, jewelry, etc. But if a Muslim or a Jew come in and want to purchase something you can't deny them the right.

    You can open a shop that sells primarily African-American hair products. But if an Asian woman comes inside and wants to purchase something...you cannot deny them the right.

    You can open a gay pride shop and sell rainbow flags and bumper stickers and gay themed t-shirts and gay books...but if a heterosexual comes inside and wants to purchase something...you cannot deny them that right.

    Opening a business does not entitle you to write your own rules.

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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I know some gay conservatives actually, so that wouldn't work.

    What is to stop me from opening a business that ONLY caters to a specific demographic? Why MUST the business be public at all? I can open a store on any busy street and what law says that this is now a public business?

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    Tim, you cannot open a store on a busy street without getting the public approval to do so. They're called zoning laws. Lol.
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    Re: Gov. Mike Pence: Change RFRA law to make it clear discrimination won't be allowed

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    When you open up a business to the public, you have an obligation to serve the public. You don't get to pick and choose which members of the public you serve.
    Unconvincing argument is unconvincing.

    If that was the case, restaurants and hotels in the South would still be refusing to serve blacks.
    I would like to see you support that claim.

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