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    Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Apparently there are places which see human rights as potentially beneficial to their economies

    Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Chicago and Virginia are recruiting Indiana businesses concerned about their home state's passage of the religious freedom act to relocate to their areas.

    Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel have reached out to Indiana companies after last week's passage of the controversial Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which many fear could lead to discrimination against gays and lesbians.
    Both men are nominally Dems though not what I would call very liberal. Funny how two Democratic pols have jumped right into the controversy while Republicans remain silent. Could it be fear of their hard-core religious support?
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Apparently there are places which see human rights as potentially beneficial to their economies



    Both men are nominally Dems though not what I would call very liberal. Funny how two Democratic pols have jumped right into the controversy while Republicans remain silent. Could it be fear of their hard-core religious support?
    Wow, governors and mayors trying to entice businesses to their states and cities. How ingenious. Never saw that before.

    What Republican mayors or governors should be jumping into the theater?
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Apparently there are places which see human rights as potentially beneficial to their economies



    Both men are nominally Dems though not what I would call very liberal. Funny how two Democratic pols have jumped right into the controversy while Republicans remain silent. Could it be fear of their hard-core religious support?
    IIRC Illinois has this law on their books already. BHO voted yes on it's passage.

    Consider Illinois, our neighboring state that also has a RFRA.

    Illinois' RFRA was approved in 1998. But Illinois also passed a same-sex marriage law in 2013 that codifies equal status and protection for couples and their families.

    Illinois' Religious Freedom and Marriage Fairness Act at the same time preserved religious rights by explicitly saying religious officials would not be required to solemnize any marriages that went against their beliefs, nor would religious facilities be required to hold such marriage ceremonies.

    What the 'religious freedom' law really means for Indiana

    Virginia has it also.
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    IIRC Illinois has this law on their books already. BHO voted yes on it's passage.

    Consider Illinois, our neighboring state that also has a RFRA.

    Illinois' RFRA was approved in 1998. But Illinois also passed a same-sex marriage law in 2013 that codifies equal status and protection for couples and their families.

    Illinois' Religious Freedom and Marriage Fairness Act at the same time preserved religious rights by explicitly saying religious officials would not be required to solemnize any marriages that went against their beliefs, nor would religious facilities be required to hold such marriage ceremonies.

    What the 'religious freedom' law really means for Indiana

    Virginia has it also.
    The RFRA laws in Virginia and Illinois are not the same as the one passed in Indiana -- might be why the governor is now asking for a new bill "clarifying" just what is allowed.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Wow, governors and mayors trying to entice businesses to their states and cities. How ingenious. Never saw that before.

    What Republican mayors or governors should be jumping into the theater?
    Have you seen a Republican pol asking a company to move to his state because it doesn't discriminate?
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    The Indiana one isn't really any different from the ones out there, the media and outrage lobby just got a a good PR racket going and all the people that need to feel they care to be worth something are in "outrage". It's all stupid nonsense.
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Have you seen a Republican pol asking a company to move to his state because it doesn't discriminate?
    This is ridiculous. If they want to entice b. usiness they will need tax breaks not sensationalism
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    This is ridiculous. If they want to entice b. usiness they will need tax breaks not sensationalism
    Yeah...corporate welfare is usually a bigger enticement than ethics and morals.
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    IIRC Illinois has this law on their books already. BHO voted yes on it's passage.

    Consider Illinois, our neighboring state that also has a RFRA.

    Illinois' RFRA was approved in 1998. But Illinois also passed a same-sex marriage law in 2013 that codifies equal status and protection for couples and their families.

    Illinois' Religious Freedom and Marriage Fairness Act at the same time preserved religious rights by explicitly saying religious officials would not be required to solemnize any marriages that went against their beliefs, nor would religious facilities be required to hold such marriage ceremonies.

    What the 'religious freedom' law really means for Indiana

    Virginia has it also.
    And both those acts are different from the one that Indiana passed. What you are doing is akin to saying that a state with a speedd limit of 55 is the same as a state with a speed limit of 75 since they both have speed limits.
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Why would a business leave a state that affords them more freedoms? Sure, they shouldn't practice those freedoms, but why would a business leave for a state that affords them less freedoms? That doesn't make much sense.

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