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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Have you seen a Republican pol asking a company to move to his state because it doesn't discriminate?
    No. Do you think a lot of businesses are going to pick and move over this? Relocate hundreds of employees, sell their buildings, buy new buildings, assume relocation expenses, cancel contracts with vendors and renegotiate new ones in their new locations?

    Besides, I thought businesses were in bed with the Republicans.
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The Indiana one isn't really any different from the ones out there, the media and outrage lobby just got a a good PR racket going and all the people that need to feel they care to be worth something are in "outrage". It's all stupid nonsense.
    Maybe they'll all move to Canada with all of those Hollywood clowns and George Soros who dramatically declared their intent to relocate if Bush won re-election. Yet they're all still here.

    This all makes for nice theater, and it gives guys like Dannel Malloy, Terry McAuliffe and others a chance to thump their chests.
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Hey business, my state offers you less freedom. Don't you want to leave your state that offers you more freedoms and come to my state that offers you less? I mean really, don't you want to be less free?

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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why would a business leave a state that affords them more freedoms? Sure, they shouldn't practice those freedoms, but why would a business leave for a state that affords them less freedoms? That doesn't make much sense.
    Because they see supporting gay rights measures as good public relations which translates to more customers and higher profits. And I'm the socialist, aren't the libertarians supposed to know more about economics and how markets work?
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Because they see supporting gay rights measures as good public relations which translates to more customers and higher profits. And I'm the socialist, aren't the libertarians supposed to know more about economics and how markets work?
    The possible short term effects of the law on business hardly warrants spending the money necessary to move operations to another state.

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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yeah...corporate welfare is usually a bigger enticement than ethics and morals.
    For the most part they just aren't idiots cast about by the emotional idiocy of the left wing nut jobs.
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Because they see supporting gay rights measures as good public relations which translates to more customers and higher profits. And I'm the socialist, aren't the libertarians supposed to know more about economics and how markets work?
    It's easy to shoot your mouth off on social media but, spending huge amounts of money to move a business for the sake of so few people, ain't gonna happen.
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    It's easy to shoot your mouth off on social media but, spending huge amounts of money to move a business for the sake of so few people, ain't gonna happen.
    Refusing to spend "huge amounts of money" in a locale where the corporate types don't approve of the new law ain't so difficult. Angie's List - stopping plans for $40 million expansion. Cummins Diesel, based in Indiana, had a few words about the subject: "Cummins believes it's bad for business and bad for Indiana and sends the message that the state is unwelcoming."
    Salesforce.com CEO Marc Benioff also tweeted on Thursday about the decision in a series of comments that went viral and said the company would be forced to dramatically reduce its spending in the state. Salesforce bought Indianapolis-based marketing software company ExactTarget in 2013.
    Yelp CEO Jeremy Stoppelman "unconscionable to imagine that Yelp would create, maintain, or expand a significant business presence in any state that encouraged discrimination by businesses against our employees, or consumers at large."
    The organizers of Gen Con, a gaming conference that is among the marquee events of the year in the city, sent a letter to Gov. Pence this week stating that it might move in future years if he signed the bill. Oh wow!, gamer nerds! Yeah, Gen Con puts $50 million dollars into Indiana every year.

    The following shows that at least some people are thinking about the future for Indiana.
    Timothy Slaper, who directs the Indiana Business Research Center at Indiana University, said while critics point to convention dollars lost from events like Super Bowls, the real threat is to the future growth of Indiana's economy. It is still dominated by traditional industries, including agriculture and auto manufacturing.

    "I'm more concerned about the longer-term cultural implications in terms of the magnetism of the state to attract the young creative class," Slaper said. "The engineers or artists you want to have in your city and state to cultivate the ecosystem for entrepreneurs. It's the location decisions of companies like Salesforce and attracting this brain power for the next several decades."
    quotes from a CNBC article
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    IIRC Illinois has this law on their books already. BHO voted yes on it's passage.
    But Illinois also has a statewide law forbidding discrimination against anyone because of sexual orientation or gender identity.

    Indiana and Arkansas have no such statewide LGBT civil rights protections.


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    Re: Competitors wooing Indiana businesses over 'religious freedom' law

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    And both those acts are different from the one that Indiana passed. What you are doing is akin to saying that a state with a speedd limit of 55 is the same as a state with a speed limit of 75 since they both have speed limits.
    Probably would be closer to saying they both have a speed limit of 55, but Indiana lets you go 60 under very rare instances.

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