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    Ex Redding California mayor wants sprinklers on sleeping homeless

    In a future vision eerily reminiscent of the fire hoses of Birmingham Alabama in 1963, Ex "Mayor Rick Bosetti of Redding California is using his power and authority to harass , abuse and exile the homeless in his community rather than helping them. In a time when Dr. King is used a a marketing gimmick, police abuse on the poor is on the rise and city's across the country are criminalizing the poor.

    Do you feel this is a violation of homeless civil rights ?




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    Re: Ex Redding California mayor wants sprinklers on sleeping homeless

    You have no civil right to trespass, or any other criminal activity. The park is closed at night to all. It's not a campground or a homeless shelter nor is it a drug den. And just stop trying to compare it to a genuine civil rights struggle.

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    Re: Ex Redding California mayor wants sprinklers on sleeping homeless

    Didn't Utah save a whole bunch of money by simply giving the homeless... homes? Why are we still so spiteful that we can't follow that example?
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    Re: Ex Redding California mayor wants sprinklers on sleeping homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Didn't Utah save a whole bunch of money by simply giving the homeless... homes? Why are we still so spiteful that we can't follow that example?
    Some other states are trying that very same thing, in fact it was a George Bush admin program. But there are varying results and the major problem is substance abuse. It wasn't homes per se but apartments. Gotta say, who would want to live anywhere near those apartments?

    Btw, remember the Projects? How'd that work out?
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    Re: Ex Redding California mayor wants sprinklers on sleeping homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Btw, remember the Projects? How'd that work out?
    A lot better than leaving people on the street.
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    Re: Ex Redding California mayor wants sprinklers on sleeping homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    A lot better than leaving people on the street.
    Actually no, they turned out to be horrors that affected generations in the worse ways.

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    Re: Ex Redding California mayor wants sprinklers on sleeping homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by RLF View Post
    In a future vision eerily reminiscent of the fire hoses of Birmingham Alabama in 1963, Ex "Mayor Rick Bosetti of Redding California is using his power and authority to harass , abuse and exile the homeless in his community rather than helping them. In a time when Dr. King is used a a marketing gimmick, police abuse on the poor is on the rise and city's across the country are criminalizing the poor.

    Do you feel this is a violation of homeless civil rights ?
    As another poster said a park is not a campground, homeless shelter or drug den.This is not a civil rights struggle.Trying to compare this to a civil rights issue is idiotic and a insult to people who marched for equal rights back then.
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    Re: Ex Redding California mayor wants sprinklers on sleeping homeless

    There are solutions - work camps. Also known as "the County poorhouse" they ought to be taken to a local work camp. After delousing, they can have a cot, blankets, a yard shower, and (for food) beans, rice and oatmeal. . During the day they can labor on Country roads, clean farmer's barns, milk cows, scrub commandants floors, and weed fields. And if anyone who refuses to work, they do not eat (the under-producers can be put on half rations).

    On Sundays they can attend camp church, read their free bible, wash clothes, and on Sundays watch a group television during the evening (no cable).

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    Re: Ex Redding California mayor wants sprinklers on sleeping homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Didn't Utah save a whole bunch of money by simply giving the homeless... homes? Why are we still so spiteful that we can't follow that example?
    This only saves money compared to the absolute most expensive thing we could possibly do with the homeless, which is what we actually do, which is put them in a never-ending carousel of emergency services. Some of them are trucked around in ambulances and police cruisers hundreds of times in a year to the ER and/or drunk tank for sleep-off. So it's not that handing out free housing to addicts is necessarily that inherently great of a concept (moral hazard), it's just not quite as bad as what we do now.

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    Re: Ex Redding California mayor wants sprinklers on sleeping homeless

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    This only saves money compared to the absolute most expensive thing we could possibly do with the homeless, which is what we actually do, which is put them in a never-ending carousel of emergency services. Some of them are trucked around in ambulances and police cruisers hundreds of times in a year to the ER and/or drunk tank for sleep-off. So it's not that handing out free housing to addicts is necessarily that inherently great of a concept (moral hazard), it's just not quite as bad as what we do now.
    Have you actually read anything about the moral hazard? It doesn't do anything except hurt people who need help. People who aren't in need spend less money... because they don't need things and don't buy things that are too expensive. But those who do need help don't get it. And the notion that homeless people are mainly addicts, and that they are homeless because of addiction (and portraying it as a moral failing) instead of the other way around... is of course complete nonsense.
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