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US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

Hatuey said:
You don't have a right to enforce a treaty you're not even party to. That's absurd.
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Enforce? Obviously no, but contrary to the fuss you were making Israel has every right to insist that Iran is held to its international agreements, even those that it itself is not signed on. Regardless there's no hypocrisy in preventing a nation that calls for your destruction from holding nuclear weapons. Not doing so will be as suicidal as the Germanwings co-pilot.
 
Montecresto said:
If GWBush put Al Malaki in charge (and he did) how is that place a democracy?
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because he was committed to hold democratic elections, but Malaki wasnt going to give his life to achieve that unless he had proper support... rome wasnt built in a day...
 
Hatuey said:
Good grief, your child-like understanding of how the world works really puts all your other political positions in perspective. I've asked you for 4 posts whether the way this information became public matters and you've refused to answer because it doesn't fit your poor little Israelis narrative. Now all you have is whining that Israel's hypocritical position on this is clear to the world. Would you have preferred that the US continue to hold 2 positions on the policies it advocates? It's apparent that you do.
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Oh please...

Says the guy who's trying to defend Obama's temper tantrums by blaming everything on Israel.

Your failure to accept Obama's responsibity in this matter its whats Childish.

Your unending diversions are whats Childish. Your attempt to mitigate the disclosure of this information by saying it makes no difference because it could have happened 10 years ago is childish.

Your refusal to admit that Obama's motivations were based off spite and hatred is whats Childish.

I can at least continue to debate without compromising my ethics . You know how to do that ?

Its easy, you just tell the truth.
 
Travis007 said:
because he was committed to hold democratic elections, but Malaki wasnt going to give his life to achieve that unless he had proper support... rome wasnt built in a day...
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Work on your grammar dude.
 
rocket88 said:
Next thing you know, they'll declassify that sky is blue. That Israel had a nuclear program, and probably a weapon is one of the worst kept secrets in history.
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so youd have no problem with Germany declassifying our programs, locations and blue prints?
 
Travis007 said:
exactly...

Israel didnt want to start a nuke race in the mid east and it was the correct move for all nations to be safe and we see today Obama has "lit the mid east up" and on nuke race to oblivion..
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Threatening Iran suggests that Israel does want a nuke arms race.


Blaming Obama for everything wrong in the ME isn't a very good foreign policy, either.
 
rocket88 said:
Next thing you know, they'll declassify that sky is blue. That Israel had a nuclear program, and probably a weapon is one of the worst kept secrets in history.
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Thats not the point.

The point is Obama disclosed this information not based on any strategic plan, not based on intelligent foreign policy decisions, and not based on offering up security to a decades old ally.

He did this out of spite like a wounded child throwing a Temper tantrum.

His attempts to inject his influence into Israelis elections backfired and instead of acting like a adult, like a leader he chose to undermine the dignity of the office he swore an oath to.
 
Moot said:
Threatening Iran suggests that Israel does want a nuke arms race.


Blaming Obama for everything wrong in the ME isn't a very good foreign policy, either.
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Obama is a moron... a dangerous radical low IQ dullard..Obama is not fit to do anything but tie Rev Als shoes

ya know.. if the shoe fits..

Obama is a plague
 
Fenton said:
Thats not the point.

The point is Obama disclosed this information not based on any strategic plan, not based on intelligent foreign policy decisions, and not based on offering up security to a decades old ally.

He did this out of spite like a wounded child throwing a Temper tantrum.

His attempts to inject his influence into Israelis elections backfired and instead of acting like a adult, like a leader he chose to undermine the dignity of the office he swore an oath to.
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well said...

Obama promised Iran Bibis scalp...he couldnt get that.. so he made the whole country of Israel vulnerable for no reason but spite..

I cry for my country
 
Moot said:
Threatening Iran suggests that Israel does want a nuke arms race.


Blaming Obama for everything wrong in the ME isn't a very good foreign policy, either.
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cough... you do know its Iran and the Supreme Leader that is calling for Israel to be annihilated...

Israel is doing nothing but saying .. "look at us wrong and we will hit your first"
 
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Apocalypse said:
Enforce? Obviously no, but contrary to the fuss you were making Israel has every right to insist that Iran is held to its international agreements, even those that it itself is not signed on.
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That would be fine if Israeli opposition wasn't against a nuclear Iran period. Pretending that it isn't makes you look detached from reality at this point.

Regardless there's no hypocrisy in preventing a nation that calls for your destruction from holding nuclear weapons.
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There is hypocrisy in trying to get it to abide by treaties that you aren't even a member of.

Not doing so will be as suicidal as the Germanwings co-pilot.
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Your hyperbole is absurd. The entire Arab world has had ample time to blow Israel out of the sky and it hasn't.
 
Travis007 said:
Obama is a moron... a dangerous radical low IQ dullard..Obama is not fit to do anything but tie Rev Als shoes

ya know.. if the shoe fits..

Obama is a plague
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Low IQ, ha. I'll refrain.
 
Travis007 said:
cough... you do know its Iran and the Supreme Leader that is calling for Israel to be annihilated...

Israel is doiing nothing but saying .. "look at us wrong and we will hit your first"
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The Iranian leadership was referring to regime change in Israel. You know, the same thing you guys support everywhere else. But facts are irrelevant.
 
Montecresto said:
Low IQ, ha. I'll refrain.
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LOL.. you think OBama not low IQ...LOL..

you wanna buy a bridge?

Obama is a drug user , who went to Occidentl and had no grades.. who got him into Harvard and why?
 
Fenton said:
Oh please...

Says the guy who's trying to defend Obama's temper tantrums by blaming everything on Israel.
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This is a ****ing lie and I've got enough posts in this thread to show it.

Your failure to accept Obama's responsibity in this matter its whats Childish.
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No, I just don't get caught up in the minutia of the incident. What matters is that we've played cover for Israel for FAR too long on this issue and it's about time Israel step up to the limelight and abide by the same conditions it asks of everyone.

Your unending diversions are whats Childish. Your attempt to mitigate the disclosure of this information by saying it makes no difference because it could have happened 10 years ago is childish.

Your refusal to admit that Obama's motivations were based off spite and hatred is whats Childish.

I can at least continue to debate without compromising my ethics . You know how to do that ?

Its easy, you just tell the truth.
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Debate without compromising your ethics? This entire thread is about the US compromising its ethics to keep Israel happy. Are you serious? :lol:
 
Montecresto said:
The Iranian leadership was referring to regime change in Israel. You know, the same thing you guys support everywhere else.
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yea ok...you buy that line ...LOL... again Im having sale on Bridges today if ya wanna buy one

Iran wants to get the 12th Imam out of the well..
 
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Travis007 said:
LOL.. you think OBama not low IQ...LOL..

you wanna buy a bridge?

Obama is a drug user , who went to Occidentl and had no grades.. who got him into Harvard and why?
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He's the ****ing president! And you are?
 
Travis007 said:
yea ok...you buy that line ...LOL... again Im having sale on Bridges today if ya wanna buy one

Iran wants to get the 12 Imam out of the well..
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I actually could use one, but it depends on where it is.
 
Hatuey said:
This is a ****ing lie and I've got enough posts in this thread to show it.



No, I just don't get caught up in the minutia of the incident. What matters is that we've played cover for Israel for FAR too long on this issue and it's about time Israel step up to the limelight and abide by the same conditions it asks of everyone.



Debate without compromising your ethics? This entire thread is about the US compromising its ethics to keep Israel happy. Are you serious? :lol:
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You posts reflect the understanding of this subject that can be found at Code Pink and a Bill Ayers lecture...

scary
 
Hatuey said:
You don't have a right to enforce a treaty you're not even party to. That's absurd.
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I'm not a part of the police force, yet I have the right to help enforce the laws in appropriate situations. This is no different.
 
Travis007 said:
You posts reflect the understanding of this subject that can be found at Code Pink and a Bill Ayers lecture...

scary
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How would you know anything about a Code Pink and Bill Ayers lecture? Been to any recently? Or have you been studying them like you've studied the jihad?
 
Hatuey said:
This is a ****ing lie and I've got enough posts in this thread to show it.



No, I just don't get caught up in the minutia of the incident. What matters is that we've played cover for Israel for FAR too long on this issue and it's about time Israel step up to the limelight and abide by the same conditions it asks of everyone.



Debate without compromising your ethics? This entire thread is about the US compromising its ethics to keep Israel happy. Are you serious? :lol:
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All I've done throughout this thread is reported the facts.

Not one of you apologist has been able to deal with that and instead have sought to mitigate the consequences of this discolure by saying Israel had it coming, or what difference does it make everyone knew they had nukes.

Or you guys go on some ridiculous tangent and none of this changes the fact that our President is making substantial forein policy decisions based on petty emotional outburst.

He's being openly vindictive and basically telling all of Americans allies that their secrets are safe just as long as you dont cross him.

This is rhe President of the United States acting like some tin pot dictator and it SHOULD embarrass the hell out of you.
 
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