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US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

Travis007 said:
Mexico and Cuba want to go nuclear since the USA has the bomb..
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Yeah, and thanks to Israel's bull**** and hush-hush nature, we'd be bluffing our way through any sanctions too. Again Travis, you've ignored that Israel's deliberate ambiguity (that's their actual policy, not flowery language) while pushing for everyone else to abide with standards it doesn't follow on nuclear power is the problem.
 
Travis007 said:
and you post again reflect your lack of understranding of these adult subjects and the consequences of Obamas ignorance

Obama "sold out an ally" in the obscene dangerous way Ive seen in decades
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Sold out? Lol. This isn't high school Travis. Israel tried to force everyone to abide by standards it didn't follow itself. If every country in the world decided to get nuclear weapons after this, it'd be Israel's fault for avoiding following the standards it wanted for everyone else.
 
Fenton said:
For a guy who post so much in Foreign Policy discusssions you sure do have a backwards understanding of how things work.

Democracies arent " forced " but they sure can be torn asunder by irresponsible and purely political foreign policy decisions.

That much is evident as ISIS tears accross that Country murdering innocent Iraqi's and Kurds and Coptic Christians.

The facts are there were elections in Iraq and even Iraqi Women were allowed to vote.

Now the entire region is destabilized and its directly related to Obama's decision to remove all remnants of American militarily assets.

Your assertion that Democracy can't be " forced " is a twisted analysis of what actually happened in Iraq an is based on twisted comprehension of freedom and liberty.

No one " forces " Democracy. ( unless you mandate voting....) Democracy survives on its own when people are given the freedom to select their representives without the threat of retribution.

Dictatorships are FORCED, Tyrants and Kings force their minions into subjugation under the threat of persecution.

Right now freedom is being challenged by a group of extreme Islamo-fascist and it not the fault of " Democracy " nor is it the fault of the policies that sougt to Liberate a Nation of people who lived under a barbaric Tyrant for decades.
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Casting a vote means dick, hear? The US policies to remove Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad, have created a vacuum of power being exploited by the Islamic state, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt as well as two rival sects eager to settle ancient scores and the mouth breathers here want more US interference. Insanity.
 
Montecresto said:
Casting a vote means dick, hear? The US policies to remove Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad, have created a vacuum of power being exploited by the Islamic state, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt as well as two rival sects eager to settle ancient scores and the mouth breathers here want more US interference. Insanity.
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What... does this have to do with my post?
 
Hatuey said:
This isn't about the jihad Travis. Your weak understanding of global politics isn't required.
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actually it is about "the Jihad"..... laugh if you want. I see you are not facile on this as per your posts..

laugh if ya want.. doesn't change the facts of what the West is facing...
 
Hatuey said:
Say what you want about Israel playing the US for a ****ing fool while calling itself our ally? I bet you're the type of guy who would find out that his best friend is ****ing his wife and takes it out on the woman. That's exactly what is happening here. You're ignoring the fact that Obama has been in the picture for 6 years, while Israel has been pretending to be our ally for 28. While Obama doesn't get off lightly because he's agreed to keep this quiet for 7 years which is far too long for my like. Not once in 28 years did Israel even consider the possibility of what would happen if it encouraged us to deny others nuclear weapons, while the US turned a blind eye to Israel's own actions.
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Obama played himself as the Fool. He only has himself to blame.

The typical narcissist thought his influence extended out past the borders of his own inflated self worth when he tried to interfere in the IsraelI elections.

When the Israeli people basically told him to pound sand he reacted by acting like a wounded insolent child and undermined not only the safety of the Conservative Israeli but ALL ISRAELIS.

And why would Israel be concerned about a decades old closely held secret between them and their No# 1 Ally ?

I'm sure they THOUGHT they were dealing with a adult, with a leader, with someone who was mature enough not to allow his wounded pride to dictate his decisions.

Well now they know what Conservatives have known fot the last 6 years.
 
Hatuey said:
Yeah, and thanks to Israel's bull**** and hush-hush nature, we'd be bluffing our way through any sanctions too. Again Travis, you've ignored that Israel's deliberate ambiguity (that's their actual policy, not flowery language) while pushing for everyone else to abide with standards it doesn't follow on nuclear power is the problem.
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Israel isn't a part of the NPT. It doesn't have to follow those guidelines. However it has every right to make sure that others that ARE signatory to the NPT DO follow it.
 
Montecresto said:
Casting a vote means dick, hear? The US policies to remove Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad, have created a vacuum of power being exploited by the Islamic state, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt as well as two rival sects eager to settle ancient scores and the mouth breathers here want more US interference. Insanity.
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wrong.. removing Saddam did NOT leave a vacuum....

Obama left a vacuum by leaving without a SOFA..we had won the war.. but Obama was not happy with that victory so he made sure to turn into a nightmare
 
Hatuey said:
I don't know. You quoted me. Thought it was relevant to my post somehow.
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My apologies, I got it out of there immediately, as you see, it's no longer there. I don't know why but occasionally my tablet includes a quote in my post without my permission. You and I are largely in agreement on this subject.
 
Montecresto said:
Casting a vote means dick, hear? The US policies to remove Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad, have created a vacuum of power being exploited by the Islamic state, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Egypt as well as two rival sects eager to settle ancient scores and the mouth breathers here want more US interference. Insanity.
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Ok your back to your Bush obsession....unreal.

You really need to try and get a handle on that.

Again, Bush left a Iraq where the people felt free enough to vote publicly in open elections. ( Remember the purple fingers ? )

What facilitated the rise of Islamo-fascist was again, Obama's decision to remove all remnants of American militarily assets and not to establish a SOFA.

And for the people that blame the Iraqi's on this go back and re-watch the 2012 Presidential debates.

Where Obama publicly states his goals to PULL OUT EVEY LAST AMERICAN SOLDIER out of Iraq.
 
Fenton said:
Obama played himself as the Fool. He only has himself to blame.

The typical narcissist thought his influence extended out past the borders of his own inflated self worth when he tried to interfere in the IsraelI elections.

When the Israeli people basically told him to pound sand he reacted by acting like a wounded insolent child and undermined not only the safety of the Conservative Israeli but ALL ISRAELIS.

And why would Israel be concerned about a decades old closely held secret between them and their No# 1 Ally ?

I'm sure they THOUGHT they were dealing with a adult, with a leader, with someone who was mature enough not to allow his wounded pride to dictate his decisions.

Well now they know what Conservatives have known fot the last 6 years.
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Good grief, your child-like understanding of how the world works really puts all your other political positions in perspective. I've asked you for 4 posts whether the way this information became public matters and you've refused to answer because it doesn't fit your poor little Israelis narrative. Now all you have is whining that Israel's hypocritical position on this is clear to the world. Would you have preferred that the US continue to hold 2 positions on the policies it advocates? It's apparent that you do.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Israel isn't a part of the NPT. It doesn't have to follow those guidelines. However it has every right to make sure that others that ARE signatory to the NPT DO follow it.
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exactly...

Israel didnt want to start a nuke race in the mid east and it was the correct move for all nations to be safe and we see today Obama has "lit the mid east up" and on nuke race to oblivion..
 
Montecresto said:
My apologies, I got it out of there immediately, as you see, it's no longer there. I don't know why but occasionally my tablet includes a quote in my post without my permission. You and I are largely in agreement on this subject.
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And here I thought you're having problems with the auto-post system that your programmer had installed.
 
Travis007 said:
wrong.. removing Saddam did NOT leave a vacuum....

Obama left a vacuum by leaving without a SOFA..we had won the war.. but Obama was not happy with that victory so he made sure to turn into a nightmare
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Go sing that tune to the stars at night. Our own government NIE disagrees with you, and they no more about this than you will ever know.
 
Hatuey said:
Sold out? Lol. This isn't high school Travis. Israel tried to force everyone to abide by standards it didn't follow itself. If every country in the world decided to get nuclear weapons after this, it'd be Israel's fault for avoiding following the standards it wanted for everyone else.
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Incorrect.. your posts reflect you are not facile on this very complex subject
 
Kal'Stang said:
Israel isn't a part of the NPT. It doesn't have to follow those guidelines. However it has every right to make sure that others that ARE signatory to the NPT DO follow it.
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Obama just made Russia and Putin BILLIONS AND BILLIONS... soon Russia will be building nukes for SA and any other ME Country that can pay for them... Putin must be laughing in Obamas face

Cuba next?.. Its a whole new super dangerous Obama bizzaro world
 
Travis007 said:
wrong.. removing Saddam did NOT leave a vacuum....

Obama left a vacuum by leaving without a SOFA..we had won the war.. but Obama was not happy with that victory so he made sure to turn into a nightmare
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Obama didn't put Al Maliki in charge....GWBush did.
 
Fenton said:
Ok your back to your Bush obsession....unreal.

You really need to try and get a handle on that.

Again, Bush left a Iraq where the people felt free enough to vote publicly in open elections. ( Remember the purple fingers ? )

What facilitated the rise of Islamo-fascist was again, Obama's decision to remove all remnants of American militarily assets and not to establish a SOFA.

And for the people that blame the Iraqi's on this go back and re-watch the 2012 Presidential debates.

Where Obama publicly states his goals to PULL OUT EVEY LAST AMERICAN SOLDIER out of Iraq.
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Like your Obama obsession! My post points out the failures of removing Hussein, Mubarak, Gaddafi and Assad. You'll note that that implicates both Obama and Bush, not just Bush. Obama was elected to get us out of Iraq, among other things. That's why he kicked Romney's ass, don't like democracy, go live in Israel, oops, Iraq.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Israel isn't a part of the NPT. It doesn't have to follow those guidelines. However it has every right to make sure that others that ARE signatory to the NPT DO follow it.
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You don't have a right to enforce a treaty you're not even party to. That's absurd.
 
Fenton said:
US Declassifies Document on Israel's Nuclear Power - News from America - News - Arutz Sheva

" In a development that has largely been missed by mainstream media, the Pentagon early last month quietly declassified a Department of Defense top-secret document detailing Israel's nuclear program, a highly covert topic that Israel has never formally announced to avoid a regional nuclear arms race, and which the US until now has respected by remaining silent.

But by publishing the declassified document from 1987, the US reportedly breached the silent agreement to keep quiet on Israel's nuclear powers for the first time ever, detailing the nuclear program in great depth."

Obama acting like a insolent child again and or showing his true colors....unreal. Americans elected a man child.
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Next thing you know, they'll declassify that sky is blue. That Israel had a nuclear program, and probably a weapon is one of the worst kept secrets in history.
 
Moot said:
Obama didn't put Al Maliki in charge....GWBush did.
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If GWBush put Al Malaki in charge (and he did) how is that place a democracy?
 
Montecresto said:
Go sing that tune to the stars at night. Our own government NIE disagrees with you, and they no more about this than you will ever know.
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you are simply wrong... not other way to say it.. youre wrong..
 
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