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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    In your personal life, do you keep secrets for people who backstab you when it's convenient? I sure as **** don't. To hell with all these fair weather friends. We should have gotten rid of Pakistan in the 00s and we should be dumping Israel today.
    Youre, like Obama are making this personal.

    Throwing tantruns that compromise the security of a decades old ally because your'e pissed at one man is a new low for this administration.

    Obama would risk the security of a entire Country to carry out his vindictives and according to his supporters this qualifies as a credible Foreign Policy manuver.

    Is it too much to expect our President to rise above petty disagreements and instead do what's right to create a more secure and stable ME ?

    Yup, apparently it is.

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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    You could be right. However, it really is in the US's best interest to keep Israel as an ally in the region, and I feel strongly that if this is how the world sees us dump our allies, we won't have any at all because we've proven to be fickle and untrustworthy.
    Preeeetty much. Our credibility as a partner nation has taken quite a beating lately

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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think the actual message it sends is that if you want to **** with us, well, we can **** with you right back. I also think that is a message that should be sent. If foreign powers want to mess with partisan politics in the US, they can expect to get burned. Don't want to get burned, don't get involved in partisan US politics.
    Which is really ironic considering that we do it all the time.
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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think the actual message it sends is that if you want to **** with us, well, we can **** with you right back. I also think that is a message that should be sent. If foreign powers want to mess with partisan politics in the US, they can expect to get burned. Don't want to get burned, don't get involved in partisan US politics.

    How did Israel " ****" with us exactly ?

    By carrying out Democratic elections ?

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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Which is really ironic considering that we do it all the time.
    It is nice to be the biggest kid on the block. Should we make ourselves smaller simply to be fair? Or should we not stand up for our own interests?
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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is nice to be the biggest kid on the block. Should we make ourselves smaller simply to be fair? Or should we not stand up for our own interests?
    How about making thoughtful Foreign Policy decisions and putting aside petty disagreements ?

    How about not showing the World that their secrets are safe as long as you dont insult our President ?

    How about dialogue instead of threarthreatening the Secutity of all ISRAELIS because you didn't get your way ?

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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I think the actual message it sends is that if you want to **** with us, well, we can **** with you right back. I also think that is a message that should be sent. If foreign powers want to mess with partisan politics in the US, they can expect to get burned. Don't want to get burned, don't get involved in partisan US politics.
    WTF? It was our guys messing with their politics. Netanyahu didn't send political operatives and money to try to put Romney in power in 2012, but we sure sent people and money to try to kick Netanyahu out of power in 2015.


    ....And YOU DONT PUT EVERY OTHER INFORMATION SHARING AGREEMENT YOU HAVE AT RISK BECAUSE YOU ARE UPSET THAT YOU FAILED TO TO TOPPLE THE LEADERSHIP OF AN ALLY.
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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is nice to be the biggest kid on the block. Should we make ourselves smaller simply to be fair? Or should we not stand up for our own interests?
    How is demonstrating that we are an untrustworthy partner in our national interests?

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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Preeeetty much. Our credibility as a partner nation has taken quite a beating lately
    It just got worse.



    NBC’s Engel: US allies fear Obama admin leaking information to Iran.....

    Just how badly has Barack Obama and his administration damaged relations with our allies in the Middle East? NBC’s Richard Engel reports that the Sunni nations in the region have begun to fear that the Obama administration leaks intel to Iran as part of its efforts at rapprochement with the mullahs, which is why the US got blindsided by the Saudi-led coalition’s operations in Yemen. The White House’s “incoherence” in policy, Engel reports, has most of them losing confidence in American leadership, according to Engel’s contacts (via Free Beacon):

    ENGEL (1:58): I know several people in the US military who were taken by surprise by this [action in Yemen]. Senior officials who would have been expected to know that there was going to be an operation in Yemen, they didn’t. They were finding out about it almost in real time.

    And they believe, and some US members of Congress believe, that the reason Saudi Arabia and other states didn’t tell the US that it was going to launch this war against Shi’ite backed, or Iranian-backed rebels in Yemen, is because Saudi Arabia and other countries simply don’t trust the United States anymore, don’t trust this administration — think the administration is working to befriend Iran to try and make a deal in Switzerland, and therefore didn’t think that the intelligence frankly would be secure. I think that is a situation that is quite troubling for US foreign policy, where traditional allies — like Saudi Arabia, like Egypt, like the United Arab Emirates — don’t know if the US is reliable at this stage to hold onto this information when it comes to Iran.....snip~

    NBC’s Engel: US allies fear Obama admin leaking information to Iran Hot Air

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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    How did Israel " ****" with us exactly ?

    By carrying out Democratic elections ?
    They didn't vote the way we wanted. Democracy only counts if you elect people Barack Obama approves of.

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