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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Two things;

    A) Iran isn't just Israel's problem. Israel has the most to lose, but Iran is also the problem of France, the UK, Germany, Spain, Italy, Canada, Finland, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, etc. etc. etc. and yes of the United States of Death to America as well. So trying to present an hypothetical declaration of war on Iran as "going to war for Israel" isn't honest.

    B) The American foreign aid to Israel, which makes ~1% of Israel's GDP, does not somehow remove Israel's sovereignty as a state. America supports Israel militarily and diplomatically because the two nations share both values and geopolitical interests. The relations are clearly asymmetrical as one nation is the biggest empire on the planet while the other is a tiny nation of 8 million souls, but that doesn't mean that the US "doesn't get anything" from it as you've previously falsely claimed. Just to name one field, the Israeli-American cooperation in military research had seen a lot of successes and many of the systems that American soldiers use on the battlefield are the product of Israeli scientists, or have Israeli-added features in them. To conclude it's false to portray the Israeli-American relationship as something that isn't benefiting America, and if it was true there wouldn't be any relationship to begin with.
    We work closely and are ailed closely with all sorts of developed nations that we don't give a cent of foreign aid to. I don't recall Canada, the UK, France, Germany or countless other nations that we have a close relationship with and get a lot more out of economically than we do Israel, having a huge lobby in the United States trying to get foreign aid out of us.

    I don't have anything against Israel, I wish the country all the best, but if you are going to be the world's largest recipient of foreign aid, then don't insult our president and don't undermine negotiations we have with other countries.

    Finally, if we go to war with Iran it most certainly will primarily be for the benefit of Israel. Iran poses no substantial threat to the United States nuclear or not. It is a country whose military budget is a tiny, tiny fraction of ours, whose per-capita GDP is a tiny, tiny fraction of ours, and who has neither the navy nor any real means of ever striking the United States. Israel is an ally of the United States and the United States will defend the country if necessary, but don't pretend its primarily for our benefit, it would be to help Israel.
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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    this was payback
    no longer does israel have plausible deniability about its nuclear weapons capability
    now sign the NPT israel, or shut the **** up about iran seeking its own nuclear weapons to establish military parity
    Lol !!

    Yes, it was the type of " payback " thats usually meted out by third world tin hat Dictators.

    It was so very amatuer, so very un- Presidential and so very childish.

    Obama throws a Temper tantrum because he's not as influential as he thinks he is and targets ALL ISRAELIES.

    He's taken upon himself to punish the entire Country, even the Liberals and Arabs that live there for not bending to his will and you people support it.

    Liberals have no shame.

    Hey Obama, thanks for vindicating the Conservative criticism that exposed you as the narcissist that you are back in 2009.

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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    We work closely and are ailed closely with all sorts of developed nations that we don't give a cent of foreign aid to. I don't recall Canada, the UK, France, Germany or countless other nations that we have a close relationship with and get a lot more out of economically than we do Israel, having a huge lobby in the United States trying to get foreign aid out of us.

    I don't have anything against Israel, I wish the country all the best, but if you are going to be the world's largest recipient of foreign aid, then don't insult our president and don't undermine negotiations we have with other countries.

    Finally, if we go to war with Iran it most certainly will primarily be for the benefit of Israel. Iran poses no substantial threat to the United States nuclear or not. It is a country whose military budget is a tiny, tiny fraction of ours, whose per-capita GDP is a tiny, tiny fraction of ours, and who has neither the navy nor any real means of ever striking the United States. Israel is an ally of the United States and the United States will defend the country if necessary, but don't pretend its primarily for our benefit, it would be to help Israel.
    Iran is the leading State sponsor of Terrorism and can be linked to Terrorsist attacks that took American lives going all the way back to the Beirut Bombing

    Their IEDs took the lives of young American service men and now, we're actually allied with them in a attempt to fight off ISIL in Iraq.

    The world's turned upside down.

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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol !!

    Yes, it was the type of " payback " thats usually meted out by third world tin hat Dictators.

    It was so very amatuer, so very un- Presidential and so very childish.

    Obama throws a Temper tantrum because he's not as influential as he thinks he is and targets ALL ISRAELIES.

    He's taken upon himself to punish the entire Country, even the Liberals and Arabs that live there for not bending to his will and you people support it.

    Liberals have no shame.

    Hey Obama, thanks for vindicating the Conservative criticism that exposed you as the narcissist that you are back in 2009.
    Exactly what did Obama have to do with the lawsuit and court order that forced the release of these documents over a month ago? I realize that he must have done it or your narrative is a lie but I don't see his name anywhere on court documents.

    In the midst of controversy over the Israeli prime minister's plans to address Congress next month, a researcher has won the release of a decades-old Defense Department report detailing the U.S. government's extensive help to Israel in that nation's development of a nuclear bomb.
    "I am struck by the degree of cooperation on specialized war making devices between Israel and the US," said Roger Mattson, a former memer of the Atomic Energy Commission technical staff.
    The 1987 report, "Critical Technology Assessment in Israel and NATO Nations," compares the key Israeli facilities developing nuclear weapons to Los Alamos and Oak Ridge National Laboratories, the principal U.S. laboratories that developed the bomb for the United States.
    The tightly held report notes that the Israelis are "developing the kind of codes which will enable them to make hydrogen bombs. That is, codes which detail fission and fusion processes on a microscopic and macroscopic level."
    The release comes after Grant Smith, director of the Washington, D.C.-based Institute for Research: Middle Eastern Policy filed filed a FOIA request last year and followed with a lawsuit in September seeking to compel release of the report.
    The government fought to delay release of the 386-page report in hearings before Judge Tanya Chutkan in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, who expressed skepticism with the government's reasons for refusing to provide a single unclassified document.[
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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Iran is the leading State sponsor of Terrorism and can be linked to Terrorsist attacks that took American lives going all the way back to the Beirut Bombing

    Their IEDs took the lives of young American service men and now, we're actually allied with them in a attempt to fight off ISIL in Iraq.

    The world's turned upside down.
    Well blame the Bush Administration for that. They are the one that removed their mortal enemy in Iraq whom we had contained (Saddam) and thus paved the way for an Iranian puppet government to take its place. We will be dealing with the repercussions of that decision for decades to come. Mind you, the same bunch that was advocating for the disastrous decision to go into Iraq back in 2003 are the same bunch that wants us to go to war with Iran today.
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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Iran is the leading State sponsor of Terrorism and can be linked to Terrorsist attacks that took American lives going all the way back to the Beirut Bombing
    this is going to piss you off:
    An annual security assessment presented to the U.S. Senate by James Clapper, the director of National Intelligence, has excluded Iran and the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah from its list of terror threats to U.S. interests, despite both being consistently included as threats in previous years. ...
    http://www.newsweek.com/iran-and-hez...r-talks-314073

    Their IEDs took the lives of young American service men and now, we're actually allied with them in a attempt to fight off ISIL in Iraq.
    yes, and we deposed their elected leader in the early 50's when it appeared he was about to nationalize his nation's oil for iran's own benefit

    The world's turned upside down.
    yep
    we fight beside iran in iraq and against them in syria
    and they are fighting against ISIS in syria ... so who are we fighting beside there?
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Exactly what did Obama have to do with the lawsuit and court order that forced the release of these documents over a month ago? I realize that he must have done it or your narrative is a lie but I don't see his name anywhere on court documents.


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    LOL !! " The most transparent administration " eva " !!

    You have to be joking.

    He and Hillary are so forthcoming with FOIA requests its no wonder these documents were released, after IsraelI's humiliated him and rre-elected his nemesis.

    Lol !!

    I'm not a Liberal which MEANS Im not going to fall for this BS attempt to blame this on a FOIA request.

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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !! " The most transparent administration " eva " !!

    You have to be joking.

    He and Hillary are so forthcoming with FOIA requests its no wonder these documents were released, after IsraelI's humiliated him and rre-elected his nemesis.

    Lol !!

    I'm not a Liberal which MEANS Im not going to fall for this BS attempt to blame this on a FOIA request.
    So in other words you have nothing but your partisanship to back up your claim. Thanks for playing.

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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    US Declassifies Document on Israel's Nuclear Power - News from America - News - Arutz Sheva

    " In a development that has largely been missed by mainstream media, the Pentagon early last month quietly declassified a Department of Defense top-secret document detailing Israel's nuclear program, a highly covert topic that Israel has never formally announced to avoid a regional nuclear arms race, and which the US until now has respected by remaining silent.

    But by publishing the declassified document from 1987, the US reportedly breached the silent agreement to keep quiet on Israel's nuclear powers for the first time ever, detailing the nuclear program in great depth."

    Obama acting like a insolent child again and or showing his true colors....unreal. Americans elected a man child.
    That's an awesome move. What you talkin' 'bout Willis?

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    Re: US Declassifies Document Revealing Israel's Nuclear Program

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Well blame the Bush Administration for that. They are the one that removed their mortal enemy in Iraq whom we had contained (Saddam) and thus paved the way for an Iranian puppet government to take its place. We will be dealing with the repercussions of that decision for decades to come. Mind you, the same bunch that was advocating for the disastrous decision to go into Iraq back in 2003 are the same bunch that wants us to go to war with Iran today.
    Bull.

    When Bush left office Iraqi's were participating for the very first time in elections.

    Iraq went from a Country run by a brutal dictator to a Country where their citizens could participate in a Democratic process.

    Obama's decision to remove all remnants of American militarily assets enabled this murderous band of thugs to tear across that Country killing Women Children and Men.

    Blame Bush ? Lol !!

    Funny, Obama's decision to leave the American Military in Afghanistan sure looks like proof he's learned his lesson.

    Too bad it came at the cost of so many innocent lives

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