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    Re: Florida teen kills brother, wounds another after argument over food

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Does it even matter? Even if it was the parents gun there would be no charges because they have "suffered enough". That is what needs to be changed. Consequences for improper gun ownership needs to be law. Most home weapons only kill or injure the owner or family.
    It already is. Had the boy survived he would have been charged with illegal possession of gun by minor. Try again.
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    Re: Florida teen kills brother, wounds another after argument over food

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    Re: Florida teen kills brother, wounds another after argument over food

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Does it even matter? Even if it was the parents gun there would be no charges because they have "suffered enough". That is what needs to be changed. Consequences for improper gun ownership needs to be law. The most common "use" for home weapons is to kill or injure the owner or his family and that is a travesty.
    Aside from you editing original post to become a bait thread, do you have anything to back up that absurd statement that I bolded?
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    Re: Florida teen kills brother, wounds another after argument over food

    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    It already is. Had the boy survived he would have been charged with illegal possession of gun by minor. Try again.
    And allowing a gun to get into the hands of a minor is cause for celebration I guess. Is that also part of the 2nd ammendment? The right to allow your children to play with guns?

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    Re: Florida teen kills brother, wounds another after argument over food

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    Whether they're useful or not doesn't matter. However, if that doesn't work for you: What about medicine? You can't see an ad on tv without a 4 minute explanation on what the side effects of that drug are. You can't even get an ad for menopause meds without some lady talking for 20 mins about how it could lead to some crazy side effect that only occurs in a small percentage of cases. We have literally developed a culture of consumption (in the pharmaceutical industry) where people are informed on the dozens of side effects whether they want to buy the drug or not. You can't get an abortion in some states without having to have a doctor tell you about killing children. Why is this not done with guns? Instead we have a reinforcement that guns are a solution to problems; from movies to video games and even certain politicians depending on their language and the time of the month. Do you believe that can't be changed in the same manner that it was established?


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    Re: Florida teen kills brother, wounds another after argument over food

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And allowing a gun to get into the hands of a minor is cause for celebration I guess.
    Who said that? Please show it.
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    Re: Florida teen kills brother, wounds another after argument over food

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And allowing a gun to get into the hands of a minor is cause for celebration I guess. Is that also part of the 2nd ammendment? The right to allow your children to play with guns?
    Would it make you feel better if the boy used a bat?
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    Re: Florida teen kills brother, wounds another after argument over food

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And allowing a gun to get into the hands of a minor is cause for celebration I guess. Is that also part of the 2nd ammendment? The right to allow your children to play with guns?
    You should stop editing your posts. They keep going from already very bad to worse and really getting weighted down by strawmen.
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    Re: Florida teen kills brother, wounds another after argument over food

    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    Aside from you editing original post to become a bait thread, do you have anything to back up that absurd statement that I bolded?
    My statement is correct from just suicides alone. Suicides are the most common use of a home weapon and owning one increases your risk of suicide greatly.This case is a excellent example.

    The harrowing fact of suicide demands a story: “Why?” But from a public health perspective, an equally illuminating question is “How?” Intent matters, but so does method, because the method by which one attempts suicide has a great deal to do with whether one lives or dies. What makes guns the most common mode of suicide in this country? The answer: They are both lethal and accessible. About one in three American households contains a gun. The price of this easy access is high. Gun owners and their families are much more likely to kill themselves than are non-gun-owners. A 2008 study by Miller and David Hemenway, HICRC director and author of the book Private Guns, Public Health, found that rates of firearm suicides in states with the highest rates of gun ownership are 3.7 times higher for men and 7.9 times higher for women, compared with states with the lowest gun ownership—though the rates of non-firearm suicides are about the same. A gun in the home raises the suicide risk for everyone: gun owner, spouse and children alike.
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/magazine...e-hidden-toll/

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    Re: Florida teen kills brother, wounds another after argument over food

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    My statement is correct from just suicides alone. Suicides are the most common use of a home weapon and owning one increases your risk of suicide greatly.This case is a excellent example.



    Guns & Suicide: The Hidden Toll | Magazine Features | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health Magazine Features
    though the rates of non-firearm suicides are about the same.
    Take away the firearm and suicide still occurs.
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    If certain gun guys are insulted by that? Good, they should be ashamed: the rest of US are sick and tired of having our intelligence insulted[/i].



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