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Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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Conventions in Indiana? :shock: I've been to conventions all over the world, and never one there. I'm not sure how the threats to Pence are going to work...they said Arizona was dead after Brewer signed her bill into law, and tourism hasn't suffered there.

I'll bet SCOTUS will overturn this easily.
 
Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers - CNN.com



Wow. WTF Indiana????
You trying to out-religious the bible-belt states?
Is Indiana becoming Mississippi2.0 or something?

This is going to be interesting to watch.

Business owners ought not to have to bend to every protected class. Especially ones that go against their personal faith.

This is a backlash against the actions of unelected Federal judges who over-ride the wishes of the majority of a states voters.
 
Business owners ought not to have to bend to every protected class. Especially ones that go against their personal faith.

This is a backlash against the actions of unelected Federal judges who over-ride the wishes of the majority of a states voters.

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Can I get a witness?
 
The last gasps of the crazed talibornagains. In what universe is this acceptable?

Nutsacks.
 
This shouldn't require a bill.

No business should ever be compelled to serve anyone.
 
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Rock on guys.....rock on. :roll:

Okay, I will.

That should be legal.

I certainly don't approve of it, but there is no rational basis whatsover to compel them to give custom.

It is worth noting that during the time of Jim Crow laws commonly made such discrimination mandatory - that is equally unacceptable intrusion into the property rights of a business owner.


The free market is a voluntary exchange of goods, services, and property. The government has no business interfering with such voluntary exchanges.
 
This is excellent news. Hopefully this reinforcement of the concept of liberty will spread. Kudos to Mike Pence

And if a governor decides to pass a bill allowing discrimination of whatever YOU are?

Then what?
 
And if a governor decides to pass a bill allowing discrimination of whatever YOU are?

Then what?
Then I have to patronize businesses that don't discriminate against me. Problem solved
 
And if a governor decides to pass a bill allowing discrimination of whatever YOU are?

Then what?

Then I'll think any business that actually does so is run by a dickhead and I'll probably go on social media to complain about them.

I still won't think I need a law to force anyone to sell me ****.
 
Then I have to patronize businesses that don't discriminate against me. Problem solved

This is america, we don't allow discrimination. You want to live in a theocracy, there are plenty of miserable places you can move to.
 
This is america, we don't allow discrimination. You want to live in a theocracy, there are plenty of miserable places you can move to.

What the hell does any of this have to do with "theocracy?"

America's Constitution has been blatantly disregarded by those who swear to uphold it. It does not permit Congress to compel anyone to give custom to anyone.

Individual state constitutions may permit an individual state to make such laws, but the feds have no such authority.
 
Then I'll think any business that actually does so is run by a dickhead and I'll probably go on social media to complain about them.

I still won't think I need a law to force anyone to sell me ****.

So, a store could decide not to sell to blacks, or christians or disabled or vets?
 
Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers - CNN.com



Wow. WTF Indiana????
You trying to out-religious the bible-belt states?
Is Indiana becoming Mississippi2.0 or something?

This is going to be interesting to watch.

This will clearly be declared unconstitutional if for nothing else being impractical in practice unless there's a companion bill that requires gay people to wear the scarlet letter. Otherwise, how would businesses know whether or not Governor Pence is gay? After all, there seem to be a lot of politicians capable of hiding their true sexuality, and politicians aren't known to be the sharpest knives in the drawer. Similar to the nonsense in Oregon, requiring businesses to declare their bigotry, this is just more sad stupidity.
 
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So, a store could decide not to sell to blacks, or christians or disabled or vets?

No one should be forced to sell anything to anyone. A free market is all about voluntary exchange.

For most businesses, the ones run by rational owners, the only color that matters is green.
 
Okay, I will.

That should be legal.

I certainly don't approve of it, but there is no rational basis whatsover to compel them to give custom.

It is worth noting that during the time of Jim Crow laws commonly made such discrimination mandatory - that is equally unacceptable intrusion into the property rights of a business owner.


The free market is a voluntary exchange of goods, services, and property. The government has no business interfering with such voluntary exchanges.

I have to disagree with you here.

Do you also believe that private businesses should be allowed to exercise similar employment discrimination? It's the obvious extension/conclusion.

Likewise, do you believe that a city or municipality should be able to discriminate about who can operate a private business? How far down the slope do you want to slide?
 
Business owners ought not to have to bend to every protected class. Especially ones that go against their personal faith.

This is a backlash against the actions of unelected Federal judges who over-ride the wishes of the majority of a states voters.

Hiding behind religion to practice bigotry is a crock of chit. If they held their religious convictions so strongly they wouldn't be open. They would have to refuse service to all "sinners".
 
This is america, we don't allow discrimination. You want to live in a theocracy, there are plenty of miserable places you can move to.
We discriminate all the time. Discrimination is actually people exercising liberty. Non-discrimination laws are government exchanging the liberties of one person for the security of another.
 
Then I'll think any business that actually does so is run by a dickhead and I'll probably go on social media to complain about them.

I still won't think I need a law to force anyone to sell me ****.

Should hospitals refuse to treat gay people?
 
This is america, we don't allow discrimination. You want to live in a theocracy, there are plenty of miserable places you can move to.

I am an atheist in a mixed race marriage and I think private, non-essential businesses should be able to discriminate for whatever stupid reason they want. And we have the right to publicly shame them out of business. I sure don't want a theocracy.
 
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