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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Religious people are discriminated against. Fat people are discriminated against. Smokers are discriminated against. Some discriminate against country western singers. Some discriminate against those who gamble and partake in alcohol. Others discriminate against Southern folks and others against Northern folks. There are laws that protect gays from discrimination against their inalienable rights just like any other citizen. Gays have not been denied the use of a water fountain. Gays have never been sold as merchandise to the highest bidder because of their gayness. Gays have never been denied a seat at a lunch counter or restaurant because of their gayness. But black folks were and it is outrageous there are those who will use the suffering of race inequality as even beginning to match what the lgbt community claims in discrimination acts. Denying someone a wedding cake because of religious convictions doesn't even belong on the same page of those who were beaten and treated like second class citizens because of their color. Shameful.

    Now long before LGBT, there was something called freedom of religion guaranteeing every individual their right to religious expression and moral conscience. Some folks find gay marriage a sin yet they have just as much right in the public square as anyone else and have the right to conduct their life in commerce without persecution for their beliefs.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Well, using your definition, of course I am, because I don't associate with racists and homophobes. And the charity I work with accepts everyone, but they don't allow those to stay who insult the black or gay residents or staff, so they're a "bigoted" organization because they demand that all staff and residents show respect to each other regardless of race, sexual orientation, etc.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Stopped reading right there. The typo aside, as a cisgender person, you never have to worry about people questioning who you are simply because of a clash between what's between your legs and what's between your ears.

    Open your mind, stop being so bigoted, and maybe I'll consider listening to you. Until then, adios!
    There is no reason to use such a term to describe people that are not delusional. It's a stupid term that serves no purpose. If that bothers you then I recommend you take it up with someone that cares.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

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    So your answer is they're both "bigots?" OK,
    I don't use the word myself.
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) ok that sets good ground work so its a public access business.
    2.) ok perfect so when the woman walks up will she be told there is no women allowed in the store?
    Yes...
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Religious people are discriminated against. Fat people are discriminated against. Smokers are discriminated against. Some discriminate against country western singers. Some discriminate against those who gamble and partake in alcohol. Others discriminate against Southern folks and others against Northern folks. There are laws that protect gays from discrimination against their inalienable rights just like any other citizen. Gays have not been denied the use of a water fountain or bathroom because of their gayness. Gays have never been sold as merchandise to the highest bidder because of their gayness. Gays have never been denied a seat at a lunch counter or restaurant because of their gayness. But black folks were and it is outrageous there are those who will use the suffering of race inequality as even beginning to match what the lgbt community claims in discrimination acts. Denying someone a wedding cake because of religious convictions doesn't even belong on the same page of those who were beaten and treated like second class citizens because of their color. Shameful.

    Now long before LGBT, there was something called freedom of religion guaranteeing every individual their right to religious expression and moral conscience. Some folks find gay marriage a sin yet they have just as much right in the public square as anyone else and have the right to conduct their life in commerce without persecution for their beliefs.


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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    There is no reason to use such a term to describe people that are not delusional. It's a stupid term that serves no purpose. If that bothers you then I recommend you take it up with someone that cares.
    Try to push your straight, white, cisgendered, male privilege on someone more gullible.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Blemonds View Post
    "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" should rule the day for business matters
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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Try to push your straight, white, cisgendered, male privilege on someone more gullible.

    Goodbye.
    Awww..you can't deal with the fact that we don't need the word.

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    Re: Indiana's Pence to sign bill allowing businesses to reject gay customers

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    I don't use the word myself.
    OK, so you're smart enough to know better than to equate those two, as it would be absurd. I guess that's a good thing.

    In the meantime, the rest of the world who hasn't accepted the Orwellian redefinition of the word will continue to refer to the CEO who fired his worker because he's gay as a bigot or perhaps anti-gay bigot, and pretty much no one will have any doubt about the meaning we're trying to get across. Exactly no one not trying to miss the point will label the CFO who resigned in protest as a "bigot." We'd all recognize he's standing against bigotry and discrimination in the workplace.

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